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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-30-2007, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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TJ fender thoughts.

Well after my fender adjustment at the badlands I am thinking about tubing the front of the TJ. Nothing crazy, but I never liked the fact that tube fenders attach to the tub, and as much as I hit things I am not sure that I want that force applied directly to the tub so I am contemplating a wedge type design where the tube would follow the curve of the hood around. There would be some coverage for the tires, just not as much as full fenders would provide. Attached is a sketch in bend tech, it is not to scale or perfect just tell me what you think.
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It's a start -

You''ll need another tube along the outside of the fender too if you are using sheet metal as the fenders. What about the inner fender/splash panel?

Or are you just making it like a cage around the stock fenders to protect them?

It's not clear in the picture.

Remember you get movement between the frame and body, so you'll have to leave quite a bit of space between the body mounted hood, cowl, grill etc and the frame mounted tubes - anywhere it comes close to the body. That may make it look funny.
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I was thinking about doing away with the majority of the fender. there wold be less to hit then and if I do get into it it should push me off as apposed to dig into the body.

I haven't decided on inner fenders. there will be something fabed, but I am not sure what yet. I was looking at Blue torch fabworks tube fender and they make a pan in front of and behind the shock mount and it appears to block most of the mud ect. There may be a better way. I am not sure

The movement is a concern of mine, The tub I think is not a problem, but the hood has to come down onto the top of the tube. Depending on the amount of movement that could be a problem.

I am replacing the entire fender's

Just want to do it right... Kinking the tube dosen't concern me, it is the logistics of attaching everything. I am thinking I want it removable.

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If he would just learn to turn when someone is yelling TURN TURN TURN. There wouldnt be this ordeal.

But he does like to hit things. Mostly just trees though.


I like the sketch Jeff. Its a damn good start.

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You are right Jim, It just didn't look like it was hitting that hard,,, But I was mistaken. Hard for a fender to fend off a tree. Course at least it matches side to side.


I am trying to find a pic of something similar but am having no luck.

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my tube funders have been plowed into the ground several times each and the tub is holding up just fine. I think anything less than road speeds would not damage anything.

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Jeff,

Here is my $0.02, because I just somewhat finished building a set of tube fenders for my TJ the night before the bash.

I like the grill guard/tube design. Just wondering if you are going to make a triangular section of fender to the rear and how you would do it without the flat fender section of tubing?

Think about your battery mount when you work your design up for the fender. I opened my fender wells up about 3" towards the tub which required me to modify my battery mount alot. Also your fuse box mount for the passenger side.

One the driverside you have quite a few things on the fender. I am sure you have thought about this but it is a PITA.

I still have to build my inner fenders but not a real big deal once everything else is mounted. I am just going to start piecing it in the when I pull the fenders off to paint weld them in. Not the way I'd mass produce but I will be helping to build a couple more sets for the guys I wheel with.


I mounted my fenders to the tub and grill and they are very stout. I actually hand shaped the piece that mounts to the grill with a torch and hammer out of 3/8" stock(all I had). Only took about 5 minutes per side. I rough built my fenders in about 5 hours including all the welding.

$56 in my fenders after paint. It take right at 20ft of tubing to make base fenders with no flares.

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I had thought about some of that. there would have to be some fender back at the body, I do need to do some more looking at the batery box though. I did this drawing sitting in my skivies watching the discovery channel. So it all is out of my head.

I was concerned about the ability of the tube fenders to hold up, but Elusive, I know you wheel yours harder than I wheel mine.

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they hold up very well.
surprisingly well actually.
grinding them into a cliff:


dragging on the fender itself:


driving for a ways on the side:


it looks the same, but it's a different flop...


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