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post #1 of (permalink) Old 04-18-2007, 02:35 PM Thread Starter
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Ultimate 44/9", what do you think?

I think i'm keeping with a 44/9" for my bronco. I don't want them to break and I want to spend cash once. The rig will be on bead locked 36's/ has a stock maybe a mild 302 in it. It will see every sort of trails from mud, to big rocks, to hills and DD duty. I plan on keeping the rig/ axles for a long time. How does this combo sound?

D44 front
-HP 44 housing narrowed to EB width
-Yukon alloy shafts
-Super joints
-Yukon 4.88's
-Auburn electrac
-New ball joints
-New wheel/spindle/ carrier bearings
-10 bolt knuckles
-ttb spindles/ hubs/rotors
-chevy caliper brackets/calipers
-warn hubs/ flanges depending on the run
-knuckle over steering with 7/8" 1 ton tre's, 1.5x.250 wall tubing, hydro assist if cash allows
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9"
-Currie race + nodular third
-nodular daytona pinion support, 3.25 carrier bearings
-35 spline shafts
-35 spline spool 3.25 bearings
-Yukon 4.88's
-New bearings throughout
-Truss
-Rear discs
-1350 yoke
-skid plate for the $$$$$$ third

That combo sound like a winner? It's not exactly cheap but it should last for ever with 36's and a mild motor.
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D44 front
-HP 44 housing narrowed to EB width
make sure you do not get one of the hp44's that have the wedges cast into them. these axles can not be cut down.

-Yukon alloy shafts
The Yukon shafts are not holding up well at all for us. Shell out the $$ and get the WARN or ALLOY USA with a better warranty

-Super joints

which type?

-Yukon 4.88's

-Auburn electrac
I have seen 4 of these in d-44's 3 were broken. lockrite, or ARB. ARB for the "ultimate" set up.

-New ball joints
get moog

-New wheel/spindle/ carrier bearings

-10 bolt knuckles
why? I have d-44 and 10 bolt knuckles here. the ONLY difference I can see is that one has the hole tapered up, one tapered down... but either way is fine.

-ttb spindles/ hubs/rotors
ttb?

-chevy caliper brackets/calipers
I wouldn't use the chevy disk/caliper thingy (like I am).

-warn hubs/ flanges depending on the run


-knuckle over steering with 7/8" 1 ton tre's, 1.5x.250 wall tubing, hydro assist if cash allows
Histeer would be better of it doesn't hit the frame. Make sure the tube is DOM.

-Gusseted c's
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Here is what I am running:
HP 44 cut to 62"
Warn inner and outer shafts
CTM U-joints
Moog ball joints
yukon 4.88's
ARB
10 bolt knuckles
chevy small bearing spindles w/ ford rotors and chevy brakes
junk yard drive flanges for when I break the warn hubs
knuckle over steering with .250 wall 1.5" DOM tie rod and drag link. the drag link goes to a high steer arm on the passenger side flat top knuckle with chevy 3/4 ton tie rod ends.
I have not broken any of the components in my front axle.



9"
-Currie race + nodular third
I'd just run a NASCAR 3rd with a detroit in it already. you can get them with 4.56 and 4.88 gears installed for under $500. This does mean that you can not run the 35 spline shafts though.

-nodular daytona pinion support, 3.25 carrier bearings


-35 spline shafts

-35 spline spool 3.25 bearings

-Yukon 4.88's

-New bearings throughout

-Truss
I don't think it needs it unless you plan to catch BIG air.

-Rear discs


-1350 yoke

-skid plate for the $$$$$$ third

you know the ultimat 9" uses the truhi9 3rd member, but it has to cost a lot.

That combo sound like a winner? It's not exactly cheap but it should last for ever with 36's and a mild motor

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Thanks for the info elusive, it's going in an EB

I've allready got a weld on wedge HP 44

10 bolt knuckles, because I have acess to them

Knuckle over steering because high steer causes crossmember clearance issues on EB's

I was thinking complete offroad's super joints, i'm pretty sure they are yukons just not advertised as yukons.

Good to know about the warns not holding up.

The one guy I know with an arb always had issues with it though I think his air line routing left something to be desired. Have you had experiance with the detroit e-locker? I want a selectable, i've gotten too bored with an open front.

Very few people around here push their junk super hard/ wheel big rocks so it's hard to know what works and what does.
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10 bolt knuckles, because I have acess to them

Knuckle over steering because high steer causes crossmember clearance issues on EB's.
I have this problem on my as well, my track bar mount is right in the way.


I was thinking complete offroad's super joints, i'm pretty sure they are yukons just not advertised as yukons.

A friend is running a set of prototype yukons, and they have survived 3 axles snapping and still look perfect.

Good to know about the warns not holding up.

Warns are holding up well, the yukons are not.

The one guy I know with an arb always had issues with it though I think his air line routing left something to be desired. Have you had experiance with the detroit e-locker? I want a selectable, i've gotten too bored with an open front.
why do you need a selectable on a trail only rig?
I have had a few issues with the ARB, the relay for the pump quit, so now I carry a spare, the seals inside wear out when you get the gear lube dirty, but thats my fault...little things like that. the nice thing about the ARB is that you can get parts for them really easy right from ARB, and they are cheap. break even a small part in a detroit and you are out the entire cost of the locker. That said, we have 3-4 broken ARB's laying around right now too. anything will eventually break if you wheel it enough, but I finally broke my 6 year old rear ARB a couple months ago by snapping 2 chromoly d-44 shafts. the second one took out the ARB cross pin and seal housing. the parts were about $150 to completely rebuild the entire locker.

Very few people around here push their junk super hard/ wheel big rocks so it's hard to know what works and what does

I'm tired of breaking. i just want to wheel, so even thought the jeep is getting tougher, I'm pushing it less than I used to.

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I'm in a delema about the front axle...
Since you are doing a High Pinion anyway, might as well throw everything at it...

But for the 9", people just don't break 9" parts everyday, it's a tough unit right from the factory...
I'm not sure I'd throw tons of money at it unless something broke first.

Just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it!
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biggest thing about the 9" is it's a stock 28 spline non nodular third 9". 31 vs. 35 spline shafts and spools are pretty similar in price though I think most of the 35 spline spools require nodular thirds.
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