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TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

First off for all of you smarta**'s You know who you are.
I havent or am I buying a TJ. I like my CJ. Nothing agaisnt coils but i like my leafs.

Ok so here is the deal. My brother in law has a 97 TJ. Stock all the way around. He wants a 4 to 6 inch lift for it. I dont really know which way to point him. Im just not up on the coils.

I do know he will need a SYE.
I would say the stock trailing arms should go??? (yes/no)
Is that were the long arm kits come in or is that just overkill.
Thats about all i know about the coil lifts. It isnt much.
This is a budget build ,not a 500 dollar build but i know with lift and tires he would like to be around $2500.

As for tires i pointed him in the direction of bfg muds. They seem to be a great all around tire.

Give me all your ideas, what you like and dont like, what you did and wouldnt do again.

Thanks.
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Re: TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

I like the RE 5.5" lift coils.

You are not going to do the entire bolt on long arm RE 5.5, tires, SYE (a must), brake lines, shift linkage, and new wheels if you go 12.5" wide tires for the $2500.

But you can buy the skid plate $600, coils $350, build your own control arms($300), shocks $160, brake line $30 rear, $50 front, SYE $399(from Randy's with CV shaft), Shift linkage $20, bump stops $20, Wheels $150(Black Steel), and tires $750.

For about $2830 and you could passibly save a few more dollars here and there.

Take the skid plate out and build your own long arm mounts to attached to the frame and save another $550.

For a measly $2300

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Re: TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

If he wants that much lift, what size tires is he planning on running?
Remember he's most likely got the D-35 in back, so if he's thinking 33's or 35's, as that much lift would suggest, your looking at an axle replacement also. There's another $0.75 or so. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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"""""First off for all of you smarta**'s You know who you are."""""

It's always nice to start with an insult, then ask for advice.
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You have to look past that East Coast attitude....calling someone a smarta$$ is really a sign of love....

To answer your question....your ok with the stock control arms up to about 3" of lift....after that the ride starts to get really rough...hence the need for the long arm kit.

Not all springs are created equal....you get what you pay for. Not only will need a SYE (including CV driveshaft), but you will need longer brake lines, longer shocks, lengthen the front drive shaft.....

I am assuming he wants larger tires...which means that with a 6" lift, you will most likely want 33" or larger...which means you need to regear the front and rear axles....rule of thumb....33"=4.10 gears, 35" tires = 4.56 gears.....and while your at it, you might as well put in the lockers so you pay for setup only once.

BTW....I wouldn't call BFG a good all around tire....it's for mud....wears out quick and makes lots of noise on the road.

Then there is the issue of the rear D35....it's not exactly the best axle for 33" and larger tires....expect it to have a shorter life.

In plain terms...4-6" does not fall in the 'budget boost' category.

But, then again, if he is just looking to build a rig for looks and not take it offroad...then go the budget route and when his kidneys complain, his clutch burns out and the D35 dies, remember this post......but, what do us smarta$$'s know....
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Re: TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

The RE short arms I installed on my jeep Dec of 2000 are still alive and well under my jeep with no sign of me replacing the kit. I think it's an awesome kit for the $$$
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wow jim still alive.. damn thats a name ive not seen for a while.. how in the hell ya been jim?
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Re: TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

Something you may want to look into are J-arms. I believe they are made by Currie. They give you a Lower control arm geometery that's closer to that of a long arm, with out having to go long arm. You are also able to use the stock frame mounts for the LCA's.

A buddy down here with a TJ has them on his TJ. They're pretty nice and he's thoroughly pleased with them.

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Re: TJ lifts, I need help!!! i dont have a clue.

Hey Brent....
When you say J arm, if you mean the LCA that is in the simi shape of a J....guess what....it's the same as a straight arm.

I don't care how you shape the LCA....J, S, H, I, T....no matter what, the forces are still the same where they connect to the frame and axle.....basically, the J arm is a gimmick.

Without going into a lot of details about force angles....the greater the angle of the LCA to the frame, the more horz force that is imparted on the connection point at the frame...
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