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Re: New Warn Winch out

It's a little pricey to be able to air up. I'm wondering the market it's aimed at? I'm not a fan of multiple use modifications like this winch. Usually the engineers try to be all things to all customers and end up skimping to keep costs down. Then quality suffers and the company reputation tanks. By combining usage it also combines multiple points of failure. It also leaves the owner high and dry with a broken unit that can neither work as a compressor or a winch.

Bottom line, I wouldn't buy one. I hope I'm proved wrong.
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Re: New Warn Winch out

I gotta agree with Larry. Too many things in one package to go wrong. Also for $1400+ you can go buy a new 8274 and still have plent of $$ left for your OBA. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: New Warn Winch out

Not worth it, too tall, looks even larger than an 8274 (blocks radiator air), all sitting out there to break if you hit a tree or rock, now you'll wear your motor brushes out faster using it for a compressor also, more switches, failure points....

Not a good idea, IMHO. Dedicated products for each purpose will always perform better than a fits-all product.

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Re: New Warn Winch out

I don't buy the arguement about the 8274 blocking air.... when? during highway travel? I certianly hope no one is overheating on the highway. The only time my jeep gets hot at al is on the trail with temps well over 100 and I have the AC wide open... and then I don't think a winch a foot in front of the radiator is going to affect airflow.
all that said, It looks like a good winch and crappy air compressor unless the motor drives a york type compressor.
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Re: New Warn Winch out

One of the things I keep looking at is the 1/2 gallon tank. not very usefull it seems to me. My idea of having OBA is having a tank large enough to do more than air up tires. is 12cfm and a 1/2 gallon tank enough to seat a bead? don't know, I'm asking.
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Re: New Warn Winch out

Kinda remind me of those TV/VCR combos. Not a very good TV coupled with a chintzy VCR.
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Re: New Warn Winch out

12 cfm @ 0 psi?
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Re: New Warn Winch out

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My guess, that's the compressor running wide open with no restrictions. I'd assume that the CFM will lesson once it has to overcome built up back pressure. You've gotta love marketing hype.
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Re: New Warn Winch out

Actually that's a pretty common way to rate compressors, and not really a bad way of doing it since there are reasons for wanting compressed air at different pressures.

0 PSI Gauge is actually 1 atmosphere, or 15 PSI absolute. If you're filling tires to 15 psi, that's two atmospheres absolute, so the flow will be half of what it is unrestricted. Tires to 30 PSI is 3 atmospheres, so the flow will be one third. If you want to run air tools at 90 PSI or 8 atmospheres absolute, figure on 1/8 of the volume.

The hitch in that is that compressors lose efficiency as the output pressure rises. That's when it becomes important to know how many stages a compressor has. A two-stage compressor is pretty efficient at 150 to 175 PSI. A single-stage compressor might eventually get there, but only be pumping a fraction of it's theoretical putput.

Actually Warn deserves kudos for showing that the rating is at 0 PSI output. They wouldn't really have to, but probably do because they expect their potential buyers to not be familiar with how compressors are customarily rated.
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