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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-07-2005, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
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OT Too many have forgotten

a date which will live in infamy.

There's not a single mention in the St. Louis paper this morning, and only a small story about a memorial service at Pearl Harbor in the Belleville Fish Wrapper.

The world moves on, I suppose.
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CNN online has a story.
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I have been shocked at the lack of coverage on this subject... The men who survived that are getting fewer and fewer every year. It started the worst conflict in American history. I for one, will never forget that generation... a bunch of kids who went to war... and won.

May I suggest a good read: The Wrong Army
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I never knew anyone personally, who was at Pearl Harbor, when it was attacked.

I did however, know two men who were POW's, in the Japanese War, and were Purple Heart awarded, one was disabled.

They are both dead now, but I'm so thankful to have met, and known these guys.

They both were ladies men, and like to enjoy a beer, or glass of wine. They weren't big on details about their time as POW's, about the only thing I ever heard them say about it was, "They never lost faith, that Uncle Sam would come for them eventually."

I will always remember them, especially when Pearl Harbor day rolls around.

Here's to "Albert" and "Bob". Cheers!
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Jeepchick and I went to Pearl Harbor while we were in Hawaii about 3 years ago, and we got to shake the hand of 2 survivors. It's a very moving place.

Unfortunately, as was mentioned, the world moves on, faster now than ever before, and it's not the "disaster du juor", if you will.

9/11, tsunami, multiple major hurricanes.....

There's always a new story, and unfortunately, always a new disaster. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Unfortunately what Pete posts is too true... W/ all the 'stuff' cluttering our lives these days, we are just overwhelmed w/ current issues and too often fail to remember that which must not be allowed to be forgotten. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I was privileged to visit that hallowed 'ground' 15 yrs ago, and indeed, it is "a very moving place"... VERY MOVING.

December 7th holds an extra special place in my heart... It is the day I was commissioned and began my active duty service as an Officer of Marines. (Impossible to describe the mixed emotions being felt as I contemplate taking off the uniform - for the last time - in a few very-short months. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] )

FWIW, I chose this day to have my 'retirement flag' flown over the Marine Corps' War Memorial (Iwo Jima Monument) @ Arlington. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What other day could possibly compete? (I also have a flag flown over the Arizona Memorial on Dec 7, 1989. To be sure, the two will be appropriately shadow-boxed & prominently placed in our humble abode.)

Thanks for starting the thread Jim Lou!

REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR!!!
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Not related to the Attach on Pearl Harbor, but rather the next important event that happened there.

My Granddad was a Radioman on one of the ships that was in the Harbor at the signing of the surendor of the Japanese. I remember sitting with him while he held a globe in his lap and traced his path from Florida, by train across the country, his trips back and forth from the Pacific to teh Atlantic thru the Panama canal, and back. The stories he had, would just WOW My brother and I as we listened.
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This is pathetic.
I have asked 3 of my junior Marines and a sailor whats special about todays date..
only 1 answered correctly. The sailor didn't have a clue.
Now I'm asking my Sgt's.
1st one thinks it might be "teacher day"
2nd thought it was my birthday... then claimed it was D-day
My Cpls...
1st got it right!
2nd got it right too.. I wonder if the word is getting passed around the shop..

3 of them knew the date and it's significance
5 did not.
I stopped asking. I'll query the night crew and see if we do any better...
The sailor I have here just got out of boot camp less than a year ago...what do they teach them there?
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Next question....
"what year did the civil war end???
1st..1813 (no wonder the south lost right after the war of 1812)
2nd..1818
2rd..1823
4th..1774 very impressive.. before the desclaration of independence..
5th..1847
6th..1865(!)
7th..1875
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The sailor I have here just got out of boot camp less than a year ago...what do they teach them there?

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How to polish boots! I think the Marines are the only Service who actually steep young recruits in the history of the Corps, why we have a Corps, why we need the Corps and why this history is important...Hopefully it helps the young jarhead make the leap to the history of war, and the history of his Country.
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