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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-19-2004, 02:54 AM
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How important are lockers?

Hey everyone, I've been wheelin for a few years now, and I just bought my friends 83 CJ-7 off him and it does not have lockers, but all my other friends are tellin me that lockers are a must...the friend I got the CJ from said this jeep doesnt need lockers, so I thought I'd ask around.

Like I said its an 83 CJ-7 with a 351 V-8, 6 inch lift, 33 superswampers, Dana 20's with 4:56 gears. I know Lockers would be nice, but are they a MUST have with this jeep?
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Re: How important are lockers?

For anything remotly serious they are a must, However I wheel with several guys with no lockers and they go most of where I go, but i seem to do some of the tough stuff easier.

I just have a front and don't want to give it up for anything.

Course I am contemplating a rear.
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Re: How important are lockers?

If you don't know if you need them, you most likely don't.

I remember my first "real" wheeling trip. I said "I have to have a locker if I ever come back here". I never really wondered about it. And once I got one, I couldn't believe the difference. Lock it front and rear and you'll have to learn how to drive again! No more stomping the throttle or you will launch into space. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: How important are lockers?

I wheeled my YJ for a few years with open diffs front and rear. And I had a ton of fun. Now I have been driving my CJ around for the last year (while I continue to build the YJ) I have wheeled the CJ a few time, and it does have lockers. There is a huge difference, you do need to kind of relearn how to wheel. I would say take it out a few times as it is with the open diffs, have some fun, and then decide if you want more traction.
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Re: How important are lockers?

When I first bought my TJ I was amazed at the performance over my previous CJ. Seemed like it would go anywhere. Then I put a locker in the rear and couldn't believe the difference it made. Then I added a front locker. Amazing!! Last time I wheeled, I lost my compressor (leaving my ARB lockers inoperable). I was bypassing obstacles I wanted to do, I was on tow straps, and I ruined a new tire attempting an obstacle 5 other jeeps had just done. I won't wheel again until I get my compressor problem figured out and my lockers working again.
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Re: How important are lockers?

it depends on the type of wheeling you do. If you are mostly in the mud or do a lot of trail riding through the woods, you won't need lockers. BUT.... lockers really do make ALL the difference when the going gets tough. you'll break less parts because you'lll crawl right through places you had to hammer your jeep through previously.
your axles are an AMC 20 rear and a dana 30 front
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Re: How important are lockers?

I think the rear locker made the biggest difference in where I could go over any other modification.

Maybe oversimplifying, but the issues seem to be 1)Clearance 2) Traction. The clearance issue is simple, but traction is a lot more complex. Assuming you are not getting hung up on obstacles, the best way to make the most of your existing traction is thru a locker. I only have one in the rear diff. I've held off on getting a front locker until I can afford a better front axle and a selectable locker. I want it selectable, as I drive in 4wd on the snowy streets at times, and I don't want the handling impaired.
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Re: How important are lockers?

It's akin to "Do you really need 4 wheel drive?"
I've got friends that claim they don't need 4 wheel drive. But then, for some reason they are always "too busy" to go wheelin with me.
1st step - 4x4.
2nd step - rear locker
3rd step - front locker.

Each adds to the capability. It all depends how on far in you want to get before you get stuck or break.
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Re: How important are lockers?

Sweet thanks guys...I actually went up into the Mountains today and wheeled for a bit...bein that there has been no rain here in Washington for some time it mostly dry loose dirt, there were a couple obsticles that took me a few attempts but I never got stuck or failed to clear anything I attempted. I'll probably go with rear diffs, when I can afford em!

This leads to my 2nd question...perhaps another subjective issue...which rear diff would be ideal for my Jeep?

Washington has most every type of wheelin you can name...we got mud, hills, loggin roads, rocks, sand...and I do a bit of each.
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Re: How important are lockers?

To save confussion.. you already have diffs.... That's the big honkin' chunk inbetween the axle tubes. I believe you're refering to a locker when saying diffs.

as for what kind.. much depends on how much money you wnat to spend and what kind of performance you're looking for. there are pluses and minus to the differnet kinds of lockers.

I don't have time right now, but I'm sure someone will jump in here.

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