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Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

Been thinking about buying/making a headliner for my hardtop. I've seen a company in California makes one for about $100. Was wondering if anyone has ever used one of these, and how has it held up for you? Anyone got any other clean looking ideas on how to address this?
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

glue thin foam sheets to the inside of the top. take care that you dont leave any gaps or uneven surfaces. Then take 3m spray adhesive to the entire inside. It eats the styrofoam a bit so you'll have to experiment a bit to get the right amount. then take fabric and stick it up in 2 corners, stretching it as tight as possible(use clamps) take the other end and stretch it to a corner. clamp it down. Now the 4th corner.. take a shop vac and suck the fabric to the top. Do not rub the material or it will be uneven.

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this is just an idea that I think would work
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

I went to Pep boys, any automotive place will have it, and bought a roll of replacement carpeting for a car or trunk, it comes in about 6' roles by 4' wide.
Then cut it to fit the inside of the top. It can be pieced together if you do clean edges. After you get the pieces cut out spray the entire top inside with 3M adhesive or good contact cement.

This reduces noise level like you would not believe and stays cooler in summer and warmer in winter. I have had my top like this since 88 and believe me it works great. Total cost was around $45.00 for the carpet and glue, then just a couple hours work.

I did this with the top off and placed it upside down to have a better angle to work on it, Placed on 2 saw horses.

It looks factory because of color match to interior I get asked that all the time.
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

Home depot also cars a very similar carpet. I don't know if it's for autos or not, but it seems duable and soft. It is made to be glued down and they sell the glue for it. I don't know if it's cheaper than the Autozone stuff, but they do have wide and long rolls of it.
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

I guess I dont like the smell of mildew enough for a headliner. So I would opt to wear a heavier coat and turn up the radio.
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

1. I don't know why you'd need a headliner.
2. I kept my CJ warm down to -40*F,
3. And still ride in shirt sleeves...
4. That's a mite colder than winters in SLC.
5. <font color="red">Why are you wanting a headliner? </font color>
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

It's more to cut down on road noise. I don't want to spend big bucks on it, in case it don't work well. But if the cheap stuff works as good as Rio says, it would probably be worth it. It really doesn't get that cold here in SLC. I'm originally from Idaho, and it frequently got to 10 degrees below zero there. So the SLC winters are not even a comparison. Never really noticed the problem of road noise before, but we just bought our first home and the commute is a lot longer and is more freeway time than before. [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

1. Rio's fix works fine,
2. But may I suggest a change for the glue?
3. Being a 3M Retiree,
4. I hate to diss 3M Spray Glue ( used it for years!),
5. I'd suggest Weldwood Carpenters Contact Cement
6. The stuff is:[list][*]Less Expensive ( available in a quart can )[*]You can put it on with a brush[*]Be careful , it will eat Styrofoam if put on too thick[*]Did I say it was cheap!
7. I've used it for years for projects like this...
8. And have never been disappointed.
9. While you're at it also
10. Make some Styrofoam kickplate pieces,
11. To install in the tub sidewalls...
12. Under the tub lips, and
13. Paint to match.
14. That will also help with road noise.
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

If Leve recommends the Weldwood Carpenter's Contact Cement, it's good enough for me. I'll give her the good ole' college try.

Thanks for the advice on the kickpads for the tub sidewalls. Didn't think about that spot at all.
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Re: Hardtop Headliners, do they work?

It'd be a good idea to run a couple of top bows underneath it too. I tried contact cement holding up thin carpet on a Willys Wagon - seemed to work fine.
Then one hot day the whole thing came down on me - while I was on the freeway - not fun. One big stickey gooey mess!
I eventually used linoleum tile glue - it dried like cement - I pity anyone that's ever tried to take that carpet off now.
If done right, the top bows will take much of the weight off the glue, helping it stay in place.
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