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O/T Need Wiring Help

Hey Guys,

I am thinking about installing a garbage disposal myself. I have a quick question, is it possible for me to just put a switch in between the wire for the power and the wall <See pic> - There is an outlet under my kitchen sink, and I am thinking about just putting a switch in the cabinet under the sink for the garbage disposal. that way, I dont have to rip the wall apart, run wire to an existing spot on the wall, etc. Do you guys see any problems with this layout?

Edit: The disposal is brand new without any existing disposal. Also, this disposal does not have any kind of wiring attached to it yet. I have to run it myself.

Thanks for your help.

Sean

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Re: O/T Need Wiring Help

I installed one for my mother in exactly that way. I spliced into the receptical for power, then to a switch, then to the disposal. Easy and no problems. Go with it.
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What you posted doesn't make sense. If there is an outlet under the sink, it would be put there for the garbage disposal and should already have a switch for it somewhere on the wall above and near the sink. Even if they didn't install the disposal, there is usually provisions for it. Do you have a switch up there that you haven't figured out what it does yet? Otherwise, is there a box with a blank cover or a double wide box that has half of it blanked off? If there is, that's where the switch goes.

What you drew would work, but it would be very inconvenient. You could use a box and install a switch in the front of the lower cabinet but there would be a the danger of brushing your leg or hip against the switch and turning the disposal on, plus the shock hazard with the possibility of slopping water down the front of the cabinet.

I just changed my disposal last night. It's got a cord connected to it and just plugs into the wall. Every one I've seen recently just uses a 3 wire appliance cord, no more running flex. Get the one with the 90 degree plug like comes on a washing machine so it keeps the cord out of the way.
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Re: O/T Need Wiring Help

Thanks for the info. Related to what you said, the outlet doesn't have a switch. Right now, the dishwasher is plugged into it. I was thinking about just using the other outlet to plug the disposal in. I was thinking about mounting the switch inside the cabinet, so all I have to do is open the door, flip it on, and shut it again. I don't mind doing that.

The disposal didn't come with a cord, so my thought was to go and buy an appliance cord, and put a switch in between the disposal and the outlet as depicted in the picture.

Does that make any sense?

Thanks,
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That will work. Make sure you get a good heavy cord and some cord grips.

It still seems strange that they didn't switch one side of the outlet for the disposal but then I've seen a lot of things where somebody cheaped out only to cause a lot of problems down the road.
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1. Is that receptacle GFCI?
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1. Is that receptacle GFCI?

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LEVE you always want to take all of the "shock" and excitement out of things.

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</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
1. Is that receptacle GFCI?

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know that it has to be. Well, obviously, it doesn't have to be since he's not subject to inspection but in my NEC under

210-8 Ground-Fault Ciruit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel
(a) Dwelling Units
(6) Kitchens. Where the receptacles are installed to serve the counter-top surfaces.

It's a 1996 NEC book but I don't think anything changed and they didn't write mine up in the inspection I had to undergo last summer.
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I don't know that it has to be.

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While there may not be a code to comply with, don't you want it to be GFCI ?

If I should hit the lottery and build a new home every plugin will be protected with a GFCI. Most of those modules will protect multiple plugins and only cost a few bucks. There are other ways I want to die.

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Sounds like you've got a little phobia going there. I would expect that my chances of being killed by that outlet would be about as good as you hitting that lottery but then somebody always wins the lottery eventually.

I was only about 12 or so when I got my first shock helping my dad wire a house. I grabbed an outlet that I didn't know was hot. I've been shocked a lot of times as an electrician. I almost got to liking it.

I would worry more about dying by tripping when I get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and breaking my neck than getting electrocuted by the outlet under the sink or the disposal plugged into it, but if it makes you feel better, do it.
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