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post #1 of (permalink) Old 01-20-2004, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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I am curious what you guys would do if you were in my shoes. I'm the IT director of a nationwide mortgage lender. Recently, one of the sales directors approached me with problems with a document he created at home. He created it with MS Works and wanted to open it in Word here at work. I converted it to Word for him, but in the process found out that the document was his resume and he was sending to other locations to get a new job. He said that it is nothing and nothing is going to happen with it, but now I have prior knowledge that he is possibly going to be ditching us for someone else.

In addition to all this, my wife and I are good friends with the owners of this company. So in a way I feel as though I am betraying them by not telling them the knowledge of the employee departing, yet, at the same time the employee feels that he is trusting me with this "sensitive information."

So here's the question, do you put honesty or company first? I know my job isn't jeopardized either way so I am safe there. What would you do? There is a possibility that the sales director will not go anywhere and if he finds out that the info was leaked, obviously it came from me, thus wrecking that relationship for good. It kinda sucks that he put me in this situation, but it is what it is. What do you all think?

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Re: O/T What would you do...

I wouldn't say anything. So what if he is applying for other jobs? Till he gives his two week notice, he's not leaving.
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From a strictly legal point of view: Seems to me he made the decision to take his resume to work, to use an employee of the company to help him print his resume on company equipment. He disclosed the resume and job hunting to you. If he felt you were in a position to make some side deal with him to ensure his confidentiality, you were not. You are an employee, and what you do at work is the business of your employer. For example, could he have asked you not to say anything about the fact he steals from the company?

If your failure to disclose this to your employer was going to cause irrepairable harm to the company, you arguably have a duty to disclose. On a practical analysis, if the failure to disclose does inconsequential harm, then I wouldn't be too worried about telling the boss. He's put you in a bind. On the one had you have him as a friend (?) asking you for a favor, and on the other hand you have your friend the boss and you duty to him as an employee.

Personally, if his leaving isn't that big of a deal, I'd say nothing. The guy's a tool for putting you in that position. [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img]
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Re: O/T What would you do...

Don't say anything. He put his trust in you.
People send out resumes all the time. It doesn't mean they are leaving or want to leave. They may just be keeping their eyes open.
Besides, if he does stay and you stab him in the back it will be a tough situation to deal with at work.
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Yeah I know what you mean, it sux to be in this situation. Knowing the company, it will eventually leak, and at that point I'll just go on the offensive and then the head cheese know my side of the story.

And I don't want to tick him off then I have an enemy.

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Re: O/T What would you do...

I'd agree w/ TiminMB's well-reasoned analysis and recommendation.

Silence if inconsequential harm if he were to leave, otherwise your fiduciary duty as an employee of the company requires you to alert upper management that a valuable employee is exploring other employment opportunities. Company can then act in protecting its interests.

If you DO say something and the feller gets his panties in a bunch, just remind him that HE was the one who approached YOU to use COMPANY resources for HIS own personal 'gain'.

Just my $.02.
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Re: O/T What would you do...

EE,

As a past IT Director, you have too ask why the [img]images/graemlins/cussing.gif[/img] is it an issue anyway? If he wants to send out his resume in email, do it from home, fax ? go to Kinkos. Unless your company is in the business of placement, or he is going to be laid-off, he has no business with personal business at your business. We are not talking about keeping a tab on his stocks, setting a doctor's appointment or looking at his home camera from work.

My usual response to such requests were: As soon as it resides, or is transferred by any corporate asset or telecommunications, it instantly becomes a corporate information asset, subject to review by the appropriate supervisor(s) and/or officers of the company.....

I had many issues with these kind of situations, enough that I had to include a statement of privacy and confidentiality for all new employees, kind of sucks though.

BTW: I found Sales and especially upper levels, to be the sneakiest people in the office. Usually when they go, they like to take company information and customer lists with them. To which, it could be an information security issue if he leaves suddenly with confidential data, and worse that you knew about it. It was policy to escort all sales personnel out the door immediately.

I know it sounds draconian, but it IS a liability. [img]images/graemlins/crybaby.gif[/img]
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Re: O/T What would you do...

1. Hire Me!
2. Then I can make the decision,
3. Once you delegate me the authority!
4. But remember you do have a fiduciary responsibility,
5. To your company,
6. And it's owner.
7. It was unfair of your friend to put you in this position,
8. It's not unfair for you to get out of it.
9. It was the Sales Mgr. who started this whole ball rolling,
10. It is him that must see it through.
11. There's no sin in always looking for new opportunities,
12. But the Sales Mgr. can be fired for doing so...
13. Before you do anything...
14. Consult the Company guidelines,
15. There may be rules in place to handle job hunting,
16. At his high level.
17. If the Onwer is fair, and just,
18. Then he can be trusted to make the right decision.
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Re: O/T What would you do...

LEVE said a lot of thruth there. And it depends on where you stand with the whole situation.
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Personally, if his leaving isn't that big of a deal, I'd say nothing. The guy's a tool for putting you in that position.


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Re: O/T What would you do...

I agree with many of the ideas expressed so far in this discussion. As an outside computer service and networking consultant I see lots of resumes and other things for better or worse.

Here's a different approach, go back to your Sales Manager and explain to him what an interesting position that he has put you in. Then give him some length of time to come clean with Management before you do it for him.

People often expect more than they have right to, why put up with it, but the monkey back on his back.

There's my $0.02


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