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SOA springs? CJ/YJ/Waggy??

I have a set of YJ springs that I would like to use SOA on my CJ7. I will make an antiwrap bar and install it before I hit the trails. I also have 1 pair of heavy duty rear CJ springs. The CJ springs are under the rear of the rig right now, and I think it is too tall. I am thinking that the YJ springs will give less lift and flex better. How long will they last? I am using G. Waggy axles with 4.10 gears a rear Detroit and 35" tires. This is with a 258/T176/D300. My Scrambler has the JC Whitney 7-leaf HDs at all 4 corners, and I wish it was a little lower. I am trying to get my center of gravity down on the CJ7. I also have some G. Waggy springs laying around.

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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

I have heard horror stories about wrangler springs. Alright for crusing the mall, but after a few trips on the trail, they are shot. I'd use your CJ springs or the waggie springs. I'm going to use RE's 2.5" springs that are designed for SOA on mine.
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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

Mine would start sagging after one day of wheeling. Have you removed the overload leaf on the HD springs yet?
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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

My vote would be no, don't use them. I used them and they sagged. My friend used them on his CJ5, and they sagged. My buddy has a stock YJ and they're sagging. Basically, they're junk. Maybe if you through a few leafs in with them to give them a small boost in height. I'm running the HD CJ-7 leafs in my YJ, and am decently happy with them, but not totally. Too tall, and too short. My shackle angle sucks.
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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

I still have the overload leaves on my Scrambler. What would be gained by removing them? More flex? Lower the ride height by how much?

On the CJ7:
What about if I use the stock CJ7 7-leafs on the rear SOA, and use the rear YJ leaves on the front SOA. I suppose I could slip in an extra leaf on the front if necessary.

I really don't want to buy any springs and I have the following laying around:
1-pair CJ 7-leaf rears(no overloads)
1-pair YJ 5-leaf rears
1-pair YJ 4-leaf fronts
1-pair Waggy fronts
1-pair Waggy rears(probably way too long)

Any suggestions for a decent combination of leaves.

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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

Tom, I don't have too much input on the springs, except to agree with what has been said, don't use the YJ springs unless you add a leaf or two. At least this will send this BTT

I was wondering if you have any pics of your CJ-8 with 35's on it. And I am wondering how much lift you have.
My 8 has 4" leaf springs, 3/4" lift shackels, and a 1/2" body lift. I am running 33's right now but am thinking of running 35's this summer. I would love to see a photo of yours with some info on the amount of lift you are using... if you have one aval.
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Boy I am not too sharp this AM. I just checked out your web page Tom. That is a really nice looking 8. And I really like that decal on the hood. I would love to put one like that under the drivers door. Really nice clean Jeep. I am very impressed... I love 8's
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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

I jsut converted my CJ to wrnagler springs. I got the YJ springs for free. I thoguht they were 6 cyl springs but they turned out to be 4 cyl. The jeep didnt sag, but it flexed like amonster and reall really had alot of body roll [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I just installed an extra wrangler spring last night and it seemed to stiffen it up quite nicely. I would say use the stock YJ springs but add a leaf even if it is a 6 cyl. They may sag on the trail. Mine didnt and i ran Tellico before i got the extra leaf added and it didnt saag much, but then again my jeep is an early CJ5 so it is a bit lighter.

I chose te YJ springs jsut because you can find them pretty easy and cheap used because somebody is always lifting the jeep and has them laying around. But i did notice that the 2.5 lift springs woudl be a better choice becuse it will palce the top of th springs farther from the frame. Right now with stock YJ springs my spring plate comes pretty close to the frame at rest.

Also i used the RE antiwrap spring perches and i have no problem with spring wrap. I have a V6 and with the 4 cyl springs i did not have any axle wrap.

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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

Hey Dan,

I am not sure if my YJ springs are from a 4 or 6 cyl. Do you know how to tell? I will probably use the CJ springs in the rear and combine the YJ packs to make a good set of front springs. I just wish the Jeep didn't sit so high. I might have to try the YJ springs just to see the initial ride height.

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Re: Using YJ springs SOA? How long will they last?

Tell you the truth i am not sure. I heard that 5 leafs were for the 6 Cyl. My front springs were 4 lefa adn the rear was 5 leaf, so i think the rear mybe the same but the fronts were differnt, but then if you had a hard top and 6 cyl the springs would have to be a differnt rate. I would say stick to 5 leaf and you are good to go. And the fron springs have the pin centered, and the rear springs are offset a touch. So if yo uare alookngi at a bunch of wrangler springs in a pile keep that in mind. I just took the second leaf in the pack to install in the springs. I was told to take the main leaf and cut off the eyes and use that because the longer spring will support the main leaf and prevent it from breaking to quickly. I didnt do that because i had 2 leaf springs that had the eyes broken off [img]images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

But i used the second leaf and it was the slid in between the original main leaf and second spring. Also get some new center pins because the old one may be too short now.
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