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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-08-2003, 12:10 AM
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what do you guys think of decked out samurais? if done right im told they can be pretty serious little trail machines and rock crawlers. to me it just doesnt have the quality of a jeep ( well thats if you wanna call dana 30,35's and crappy trannys and transfercases and what not [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] )
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 09-08-2003, 04:25 AM
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There was a guy who went to the Badlands Bash with us this year who has a Sami. The body was stripped down so it was little more than a roll cage, dual transfer cases, and a puny engine compared to our Jeeps. He was going places nobody else wanted to try due to possible body damage. He was crawlin rocks like there was no tommorow. And how much gas did he use? Just over a gallon, when I used 6!!!!
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"That" guy was Burned Bronco. The moderator off of one of the ford boards here. And while Zach's sammi is a little hard on the eye.....it's an awesome wheeler. But I doubt too many casual wheelers will go to the extent of the modifications he has done on his.
Dana 44's
Twin t-cases
"big block" 4 cyl. tracker eng.
full hydro steering
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And I think it might even have twin winches now.
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I think they can be very capable. Here is a link to my old Sami buildup which I sold 4+ years ago.

http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/project/zuki/zuki.htm

Also attached is a good Golden Crack pic in Utah.

I sold it becuase it required too much fabrication (not enough off the shelf stuff). Also, it needed way too many mods to fit decent tires. Of course it was underpowered too. I miss it sometimes, though.
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Actually they are very capable wheelers with a little modification. Best of all the mods are very cheap to do. They are just like a Jeep in the mod department. You can put anything on them. They are smaller and lighter than the Jeep with the same track and wheel base as the flatties. My son has one with a Tracker motor and gearing to get 100;1 crawl ratio. It's SOA and runs 33"swampers a most impressive little rock crawler. Painted flouresent yellow with green trim [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]. Most people around AZ know him as SLOW SAMMY.
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Here is one of the better ones I have seen. I love it, just a little too small for me though.

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I like Kev's Zuki also, but it's just too unstable!....
Evidenced by the all the "flops"!
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what size tires can those tiny little axles hold tho? and how much money do you think it would cost to modify one into a capable wheeler? i dont think iv ever heard of dual transfer cases, how would that even work?
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Sorry for lurking guys , I come over here once in awhile to learn and help out . A good solid SOA Sami on 33's with very respectable flex and crawl can be built for less than $3,500 including the price of the truck if you get one cheap or rusted . It's getting harder to find clean ones as they all rusted up pretty easily and are starting to show their age . They are tight and cramped , not much room but real easy to roll down the passenger window . Mine is sitting on 33" TRXus Swampers , almost 12" of lift , 4:16 tcase , modified stock 1.3 and will still roll down the Interstate at 70mph if the winds aren't too bad . All that at 20mpg even with the drag coefficient of a house....
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do you swap in different axles to hould up to the extra weight of the 33's? id actually think about swapping in some dana 44's if i actually do buy one since they are so cheep and it wouldnt cost too much to do anyhow. [img]images/graemlins/spank.gif[/img]
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