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D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

What is the reason that people use d-rings instead of pintels as tow points? Pintels are much easier to attach a strap or rope to.
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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

Good question. I'm not an expert on the subject but since you haven't had any answers, I'm giving it a shot. First of all, I'm not sure what you mean by pintle but I think the reason that D rings are so pupular over other types of rings is that the threaded clevis pin of a D ring is straight and you don't need to "thread" a curved object through a hole.
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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

Describe what you mean by pintel, and we might better answer you question.
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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

he means a pintel... a pintel hitch.. like all the military trucks use.. I use the pintle on the wifes tj to yank a strap fairly often..no problems.. I have also used d-rinds a lot. I even managed to break one once.. it took an M-715 wide open in 3rd gear to break it though ( I was stuck!) the d-ring failed in some way and left the county.. we could hear it humming through the air for a LONG time. the driver of the M-715 put his head thrpough the rear window of the truck too....
I'm not saying the pintle would not have failed, but i'm sure it would still be attached.
another note.. I would NOT use the [intle style with the ball on the bottom.. I knew a guy in high school that kiled his girlfriend when a tow ball failed
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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

man, I am one to jerry rig just about anything and have done too much stupid stuff in my life, but if your snapping d-rings, and breaking stuff like that, its time to step back and do some re-rigging.... I realize there are times when you are stuck up the proverbial creek without a paddle, but, sometimes a simple re-evaluation of the situation is all it takes, rather than breakage. I like breakage too, makes for good stories, but it only takes once where someone gets mauled by flying debris and its not fun anymore.

As for the pintle hitch thing, yea they work pretty good, but when theyre not mounted on a one ton truck, it just makes you wonder "What in the heck!?!"

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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

sometimes a simple re-evaluation of the situation is all it takes, rather than breakage
uh-huh.. ever been 30 miles into a peat moss floating bog in the dark stuck to the tail lights in a jeep with full 1 ton running gear and 38" swampers? The M-715 (on 40" tires) was used as an anchor point for my wifes tj to winch on me.. he dug the tires all the way in and we put a snatch block on the cable... broke the cable 3 times. The wifes jeep has 35" tires and arb's .. we had to winch it out there and back with the M-715.

As for the pintle hitch thing, yea they work pretty good, but when theyre not mounted on a one ton truck, it just makes you wonder "What in the heck!?!"

I use mine to tow my m-416 trailer around, and its a good anchor point

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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

Here's a pic of my rear bumper. I have the pintel for the same reason Elusive....M416 1/4 ton trailer. It's a great spot for a strap with a shackle. It's a much more flexible joint for a trailer on a trail, too.

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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

Raymo, I like your bumper, did you make it? If not, where did you get it at? Thanks D.
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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

Elusive - thanks for the reply. I have a pintel on the rear of my CJ7 as a tow point. I like it because of the ease of attaching a tow strap or rope. Since mine is the only one that I've seen at the local mud hole, I got to wondering if there was a safety issue vs d-rings. When idiots use a ball as a tow point, I hide behind something. The guy that owns the mud hole uses a chain on his tractor and will attach it to anything as a tow point.


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Re: D-rings vs Pintels as tow point

DuaneD,

I did make the bumper. It's just a piece of 2x6x 1/4" rectangular steel. I tapered the ends and welded them shut. It mounts to the frame via 10 grade 8 bolts. It was pretty cheap. Like anything, it took longer to make than it looks like it would.

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