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Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

I'm am currently fitting my Hydro MC clutch from the 98 TJ to the CJ and when I took it out of the wrecked TJ the push rod went almost all the way out.
Now there is no way I can push it back in !

Is that normal ?

Is the pushrod overextended ?

How do I do to push it back in ?

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

Is there a huge difference in design between the two styles? Should be able to push the rod back in as long as it isn't hooked up to the pressure line. Otherwise maybe try opening the bleeder. Kinda guessing, only worked with CJ ones. Good luck though! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

The difference is that my CJ had a 258 and T4 tranny and the clutch was mechanical.
I'm swaping in my CJ a 98 TJ 4.0 L and AX15 tranny that has hydraulique clutch.
Otherwise I think it is pretty similar to any other hydraulique clutch set up.

I don't know wether it is overextended or not but I can't (using my hands) push it back in to see if it works. And yes the line is hooked up to the slave cylinder and everything is in working order.

Is it just that I don' have enough strenght in my arms or is there any other problem ?

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

either pull the line off the slave or open the bleed valve to releive the pressure and push the rod back in. Make sure you have it exactly straight and not pushing at an angle.
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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

I searched and found that the TJ Master & Slave clutch assy has no bleeder and is a non servicable unit !

So I will not unhooked a line nor open a bleeder !

My problem is that if I modify my CJ pedal to fit the pushrod length and that I discover afterward that the actual lenght is an overextended lenght I'll have to do it all over again...
What I think is really strange is that I can't push the rod in just by using my hands ..I know that a pedal multiply the strenght and that you got much stronger leg than arms but still...

Has anyone ever tried to push the rod by hand on a connected MC ?
Has anyone measured the lenght of the pushrod on 4.0 L TJ ?
My pushrod is 5.5 inches from the firewall to the pushrod ring/hole center.

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

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I searched and found that the TJ Master &amp; Slave clutch assy has no bleeder and is a non serviceable unit !

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You must have miss read or where you read that is wrong. I have yet to see a slave cyl. that doesn't have a bleeder it has to have one!!! or you couldn't get the air out or replace the fluid when it gets dirty!!!! While the slave it self is not rebuildable you have to be able to bleed it.

Your hands don't have the strength to move it because the pedal uses the strength of your leg plus it has the leverage of pedal configuration to multiply it.

If your not going to listen to experienced peoples advice then why ask a question?
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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

Not sure about that tranny...but I do know that Saturn's do not have a bleader...They are sold as one unit...a few bolts/pins and you pull it right out and replace both at once...no way to service them...

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

in2Mud, I really apreciate all the help I am getting here, and it has helped me a lot so far so I must be listening sometimes to experienced people !

However, I didn't say it was not bleedable I said there is no bleeder on the TJ 4.0 L Master &amp; Slave hydro clutch system, but there is a bleeding technique that is a bit complicated, so I'd rather not mess with it, as my system is all set up.

For more info :
TJ Clutch Bleeding

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Re: Hydro MC clutch overextended push rod : help !

By the way thanks G'pn for your post, it's after reading it and trying to find a bleeder that did a search on how to bleed that system.
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