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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-28-2003, 04:52 PM
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OK so today I send my mom over to the DMV (Mass) to register my Jeep (1973 CJ6) or so the old title said. It's got a CJ5 body on it. The bill of sale that was written up had a sale price of $100 that would have given me a $5 sales tax (5% in Mass). The way that Mass works is they tax you on the sale price or the fair market value which ever is greater. The girl at the DMV had never heard of a Jeep CJ before and didn't know how to figure it's value. Obviously it's not listed in their books [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] So she calls the department of revenue in Mass and they tell her that a 1973 CJ5 is valued at $2700.00 Does that seem high to anyone else? I checked Kelly blue book on a 1983 (only went that far back) CJ5 and the value was $800. What I need to know is how do I find out the value of my Jeep? I'd rather not get it appraised because of the mods and the only other way I know is through Kelly Blue Book, but I've already gone there. I did get a rebate form, I just want to know how to prove the real value of a Jeep Cj to the DMV. Anyone?
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Re: estimateing value for sales tax?

In Colorado the taxable value is the original price it was sold at when it left the factory. But, I don't think Colorado actually goes by that. It sounds like the office worker doesn't know her job. [img]images/graemlins/chair.gif[/img] I'd check online to see if you can get the rules and laws of your state. But you are correct that the bluebook is a about right. There's 2 cents worth,


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Move to NY, there is no tax on transfers to family members.
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Thanks, now I have .02 towards my sales tax [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] but I need some more. Anyone have a link that will give a "blue book" value that far back?
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Sounds like they are trying to put the screws to you to me.
Ask them if they want to buy it [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]!
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Since you are already a bit upset anyway, I'll just add a little fuel to the fire. Sales tax on resale is WRONG. The sales tax was collected once on the new price of that vehicle. How many more times do they get to collect it?

If you trade a vehicle in on one of higher cost, you pay the sales tax on the difference. That's fair, the tax on the resale price is refunded to you against the sales tax on the higher vehicle. When you sell a vehicle outright, the sales tax on the resale should be refunded to you, but it isn't. More government in you pocket.
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1. IMHO... tax is wrong.
2. It's leagalized robbery,
3. But it's also a fact of life,
4. Another fact is your dealing with the State...
5. They've got their rules and regulations,
6. Designed to keep people from being:
a. Logical,
b. Act with common sence,
c. In the benefit of the taxpayer.
7. I bought a Caravan for $25, and the State of Wisconsin,
8. DIdn't like the amount of tax I paid on it...
9. And sent both myself and the seller a letter wanting proof...
10. I paid $25 for it...
11. We both had proof an sent it in..
12. Man, I hate dealing with stupidity.
13. Once I had a motorcycle with a sidecar welded on...
14. The State of Washington refused to a drivers test with the sidecar affixed...
15. The State of Washington State Patrol refused to consider it a "car" for the
16. Purpose of a Drivers License.
17. So, I rode it any way, and carried copies of the laws, and
18. Talked my way outta 3 tickets...
19. Somedays it don't pay to get outta bed!
20. They can't find the Jeep in their "books" so I guess....
21. It dosen't exist, and
22. You shouldn't have to pay any tax! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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The way that Mass works is they tax you on the sale price or the fair market value which ever is greater.

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if they says 2700 guess what your paying sales tax on. sorry its not fair but its how it is.

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I just want to know how to prove the real value of a Jeep Cj to the DMV. Anyone

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Your previous quote answered this. They probably already believe you its just they get more money if they take their fmv.

its "legalized theft"

laws in ky used to be the same way. This has now been changed to actually selling price.

sorry, dmv told me my 86 cj-7 was worth $5600. and since i don't have any proof of how much i paid and can't find the guy i bought it from guess what i will pay taxes on.
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