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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-28-2003, 03:17 AM
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Hey !
I am complete new to the jeep world. But I have been dreaming about having a Jeep for such a long time.
Purchased an 89 YJ, 31 BF, with 25k on it ...
I am going 20% off road (dirt roads mostly, fields, ...)Never got stuck so far, but want to upgrade my rear diff to a auto-locking diff. To be honest : I want this for the fun !!!
I was thinking about a EZ locker, or something similar.
Anything you recommend ? or do not recommend
2nd question : is there a way to tell my Dana 35C is a C-clip, or has inferior clips, without opening the diff case ?
Thank's guys.
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1. Switzerland?
2. Ice, Snow?
3. Are you aware of the problems on a SWB with an automatic locker?
4. It can get a little nervous on the road in the winter.
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Re: lockers

definitely ice and snow.
basically, you do not recommend an automatic locking device - rather go for a arb or ox type - right ?
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Re: lockers

1. I lived in Wisconsin for 10 years,
2 It got lots of ice and snow...
3. I resisted automatic lockers for that reason, and
4. Couldn't afford ARB's (still can't).
5. But with steep grades, hairpin corners, ice snow, a little speed and inattention,
6. It's a recipie for disaster with an automatic locker.
7. I'd go with an ARB.
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thank's for your input.
cannot aford arb ...
what about a limited slip ? I guess it's better on ice, but does it really lock the 2 sides when 1 is loosing traction ?
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Re: lockers

Limited slips work to an extent. They're fine in mud, snow, sand and stuff where there's not much traction. It's just that they will still slip when one wheel has alot of traction and the other has very little or none. Such as one wheel or a rock, and the other in the air.

I don't recommend an EZ, people in my club have broken 8 of them, the last one went about 2 months ago. Now we all use lockrights for cheap lockers and have only broken 1. Keep in mind that we've also broken an ARB, a spool, and my welded diff.
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but does it really lock the 2 sides when 1 is loosing traction

[/ QUOTE ]1. Yes Limited Slip does work...Remember "PosiTraction"?
a. Both wheels are turning, splitting the engine torque,
b. The "spinning" wheel is not being used for traction,
c. But to lock the differential,
d. And little traction applied from this wheel,
e. But since the other wheel is also spinning, and has traction,
f. The Jeep can move at reduced power.
2. However, the degree to which it works is the question.
3. Like the Ryankopecki said, they can be broken.
4. Remember that the LSD has to be intellingent enough to:
a. Unlock when not needed.
b. Lock when needed.
5. It's like the old joke about the Thermos Bottle...
a. How does it know to keep things hot?
b. How does it know to keep things cold?
6. The intellignece is engineered into the springs, plates and clutch material.
7. If the engineeered specs are exceeded... the LSD fails.
8. Simple as that.
9. So, when the LSD's specs for applied torque, friction, etc. are exceeded,
10. The LSD fails.
12. This, of course, would happen when under the most stress,
13. That's usually off road, on the trail.
14. For mild off-road the stresses can wear out an LSD,
15. DIff fluid contians a friciton modifier to reduce clutch wear,
16. If it burns... then the LSD is quickly toast.
17. And it's a point most Jeep owners ignore.
18. For more information on LSD operations... click on the LSD below.

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Re: lockers

I've seen the Ox Trax Lockers in the Quadratec catalog. They are cable activated instead of air (ARB). They run about $780 with the locker, diff. cover, and cable assembly. It's only a few bucks cheaper than the ARB though.
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The OX and the ARB cost about the same $$. with the OX you have to buy the $90 cable with the ARB you have to buy their compressor kit for $230 or find the parts to modify your existing OBA...
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