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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-24-2003, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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ckutch, throw out bearing replacement

I figured before I buy this jeep, I should ask this. He guy thinks the throw out bearning needs to be replaced because at a stop sign it had a high whinny noise that went away when he took off.

How hard is it to change? and how expensive is it to buy. I might as well change the clutch too. Any ideas on which clutch to get will help.

He will sell me the cj for 3k like is or 3500 with a new clutch and bearing installed...trying to see if its worth me doing myself and saving a few bucks.
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Well... how are you at changing a clutch? To get to the throwout bearing your pulling the transmission. Which involves driveshafts, tcase and tranny. The throwout bearing resides inside the bellhousing, which might need to be pulled too. Some people might be able to unbolt the shafts and slide it back as one piece others you have to disassemble every piece. But, if you decide to have him put it in make sure that him does the clutch too. I've had a clutch out and bock in within a day, some have taken me 2-3 days of fighting [img]images/graemlins/cussing.gif[/img] to get it back together. L8r,


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Re: ckutch, throw out bearing replacement

well, I need to know how to change the clutch too...lol...I ave never worked on a tranny, but I need to learn...what else can you tell me that will help?
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You can tell a bad throwout bearing by a whining (or grinding if really bad) noise when the clutch pedal is pressed. The throwout bearing is normally idle. When you press the pedal, the bearing presses on the clutch springs and separates the disk from the pressure plate. Yes, a new clutch is a really good idea since you're getting the labor for free. While you're at it, you should replace everything, including clutch plate, pressure plate, pilot bearing and slave cylinder. That way, you know that everything is good and new and won't have to pull the transmission for many miles. It sure beats having to pull the trans 5,000 miles later because something else wore out.

I would offer the lesser amount and either do the clutch myself or have it done and done right. If you have the seller do it, he may go the cheap route. Just make sure that the transmission is good (i.e. smooth shifting, no grinding noises, etc.).
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I forgot. You asked about cost. I did mine last year. The clucth kit was $190 (include clutch, pilot bearing and throwout bearing), resurfacing the pressure plate was about $60-70 and a new dust boot $12. So, figure on $260-280 just for parts.
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Yes, a new clutch is a really good idea since you're getting the labor for free. While you're at it, you should replace everything, including clutch plate, pressure plate, pilot bearing and slave cylinder.

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As for the pilot bushing, It could be that the input bearing on the trans is bad and that input shaft is hollowing out the bushing. I found out the noise that I thought was, "Road noise", was the output shaft nut on my T90(3spd) backed off and the main shaft was wobbling in the trans. This took 4 teeth off the input shaft and locked up the trans. That was the best thing that happened to my `62. I went looking for the T18 then. Now, I'm real happy with the Willys. As for the price I would go with, ddieken and offer the lower amount and find out what you have in the bellhousing. That way you won't need to pull it out 500 miles after you buy it. L8r,



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Re: ckutch, throw out bearing replacement

what clutch should I look into...centerofrce II looks good...its 170, but im not sure its a kit...
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Re: ckutch, throw out bearing replacement

My clutch, bearing, and flywheel just got replaced over this summer. Thats another thing worth looking at when doing this: your flywheel timing ring. It might need be pretty worn and since you've got the thing disassembled...
As for difficulty, get a tranny jack, and its a piece of cake. without it... i wouldnt do it again. Now, i just have to replace the clutch linkage that was all rusted out...
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Try getting that kit from 4-Wheel Parts WholeSalers. They can sell you a decent package with a "Centerforce II Plate &amp; Disc". You really don't need the Centerforce Bearing Assembly, stock is just fine.

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Re: ckutch, throw out bearing replacement

LUK clutch works.

for a price go to www.dialaclutch.com

I put the stock replacement in my jeep. Get the whole kit with the integrated bearing/cylinder for ~$200 from pep boys.

I've heard that LUK and center force are one in the same company. And I don't think the center force will buy you much with a stock jeep. My two cents.
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