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79 jeep cherokee?

A coworker was telling me that her son's 79 jeep cherokee, blew a rod and she is willing to give it to me for free. the only reason i would want it is if the axleswould work on my jeep, what model of axles are in it? would they work on my 77cj5. if so would it be a easy swap? thanks for the help.
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

they should be d44.s you lucky [img]images/graemlins/censor.gif[/img]!!!!
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

It would have a Dana 44 front for sure, Should be the same in the rear. It`s also possible the rear could be
an AMC 20. Compare the front diff. cover to the rear, If they look the same [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]. They are going to be
wide on a `77 CJ5 though. You may also want to check what the motor is. Alot of Cherokee`s came with
the 401 [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]. Could be a really good score.
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

Depends....

If it's a manual transmission, then the axles are very desireable D44s, front with lockout hubs, centered rear diff. T-case would be a Dana 20.

If it's an auto, the front axle is vacuum disconnect, and the rear axle has a passenger-side offset diff. T-case would be the quadratrac.

As for the ease of swapping these axles, the rear centered would just be a matter of changing the rear spring perches, and the front would require outboarding of the springs (assuming you put them in uncut). Avalanche sells a kit to do this (~$400) or if you're skilled enough you can make your own outboarding solution. Either way requires welding.

Swapping in the axles from an auto would mean either switching to a Dana 18 T-case, in which case you're still stuck with the vac-disconnect front hubs. Other folks that know more than I might suggest some way in which auto waggy/cherokee axles would be useful to you.

But hey, it's free... when in doubt, part it out [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

There was a post a bit back with a number of pics of full-length waggy axles on CJs... they look pretty snappy, actually, just about the right length for, say, 35-37" tires.
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Fullygruntled, Do you know how long ago that thread was? I`d really like to see those pictures.
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

thanks for all the info she wasn't sure if it is a manual or not but she said she thinks it was something like tree on three is what she said. yes i know 3 on the tree i then asked her if it had the pedals and she said the usaul i don't know. when i saked her about the engine she told me it had one that used alot of gas.. [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] it's always nice talking to people about cars that don't even know what a cylinder is. Thanks for all of your help it sounds like i will have a cool project coming up [img]images/graemlins/RockOn.gif[/img]
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

what is outboarding is that just a fancy name for relocating the spring perches????? [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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what is outboarding is that just a fancy name for relocating the spring perches?????

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If it's an auto, the front axle is vacuum disconnect, and the rear axle has a passenger-side offset diff. T-case would be the quadratrac.


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in which case you're still stuck with the vac-disconnect front hubs

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Not true. The vacuum disconnect was not used until the 80's. The quadratrac won't work with a disconnect front axle either. The quadratrac didn't come with disconnect or hubs that could be unlocked, just a drive flange in the hub.
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Re: 79 jeep cherokee?

No no no, outboarding is NOT just a fancy name for relocating perches... relocating perches is just relocating perches. In outboarding, you instead move the SPRINGS (mainly the spring hangers) outward from the frame rails... hence, "outboarding." This only needs to be done with the front in order to deal with a front full-width's offset pumpkin location, which would normally want to occupy the same space as the spring on a normal CJ.

Here's that link, by the way... take notice of the way the front spring/shackle hangars are set up on these rigs.

While many of the rigs have full-width pickup axles (which I personally think only look really good with ridiculously large tires, take a look at Jeepgod's CJ7 and Tom85cj7's scrambler... they're both using the same type of axles you're proposing to, uncut, front springs outboarded, and I think they look damn good.
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