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mbalbritton 01-23-2003 09:09 AM

OT/ Dual Purpose Motorcylces
 
Been Considering a Dual Purpose motorcycle for a back up vehicle and Toy. I don't want any crotch rockets of cruisers, I like the Dirt bike style motorcycles, but want it also carry me 4 miles to work. Only want to drop about $600-$800 on it. Primamry use of going to work and saving my CJ from Daily driving of just a few miles at a time. Also I won't feel the need to hurry up and finish what I'm doing on the CJ just so I can have it to go to work the following day. And Lastly why not make it a toy that I can go have fun with too.

So does anyone have any suggestions on a good USED model to look for? And if anyone is looking to sell one, I'm in NC, so if you're local, maybe I can help you out. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Caver Dave 01-23-2003 09:30 AM

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I had an old Yamaha 250 "Enduro" back in the late '70s. Rode very nice in both environments. Many of the manufacturers make "dual sport" bikes now. Most are just dirt bikes with lesser tires & turn signals. I'll let you know if I hear anything (been thinking of the same thing myself since parking has become such an i$$ue downtown).

ExtinctJeep 01-23-2003 09:43 AM

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Have you guys looked into used BMW motorcycles? They make a great (from what I hear [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]) dual purpose that actually does well.

Just a thought?

Fritz

jfralph 01-23-2003 09:56 AM

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You should be looking for any of the 4 stroke dirt bikes with either street kits, or the street variations. The bigger the displacement, the more you will like it, especially in city driving.

Around here, $800 will not buy you very much, so good luck.

gman 01-23-2003 10:01 AM

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Brent, depends on which way you want to go. The line between off-road and road has been widened quite a bit in the last few years. The tendancy is to make them more torwards one or the other. In the $$ range your looking at it may be quite a few years old though.if you are going to do any susstained highway speeds i'd look at least a 350cc or bigger more like a 500-650. Forget about the bmw's there way to expensive and if you found one in that range it's probly totaled. The kawasaki's tend to be hard starting in the 4-stroke versions and heavy -not that that is bad for the road riding.suzuki and honda dr&xl tend to be a little more for off-road so if your not doing more road than dirt I would look that way. Yamaha depends on the year as to which way it leans, but have always had good luck as mfar as dependability with them. sorry to go on and on but have been there and done that, so from experience take a long look at the the type of riding you will do more of because it will tend to be brutal in one type or the other . Good luck!! Gary

mbalbritton 01-23-2003 10:03 AM

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BMW...... $$$$$$ Cha, CHHING $$$$$$

But yes, nice. My Dads buddy has one, Very Sweet! but way outta of the price range for what I'm looking for.



mbalbritton 01-23-2003 10:11 AM

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I'm talking about jus putzing around twon with in 10 miles of home, and taking on some trails for a little amuzement. I'mnot planning on the Kyle Petty run across America or the Paris-Dakar race. I'm thinking 200-250cc. Hell I don't care what year or how old it is. My Boss's Kid just picked up and '83 for $600 with a helmet. I just don't want to be caught on some stupid Scooter or Moped! [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img]

KCMF 01-23-2003 10:53 AM

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I am a honda 4 stroke believer. I have my second '84 XR 500 right now. I put over 10,000 miles on my first one. (2 trips to Baja). NEVER had a problem. I had it for almost 15 years and sold it for $600 more than I paid. My suggestion would be get a Honda or Yamaha 4 stroke, after about 1980. I would think 200 or bigger would do what you want.

highfill 01-23-2003 12:12 PM

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I'd look for an older Kaw KDX 200 or 250 (I think they made both). It is a 2 stroke but tuned for useable torque rather than racing high end. I had an enduro Yamaha 2 stroke when I was a kid and loved it. Rode it on the street everywhere. Great useable power on the trail. Hopped on a buddy's Honda XL and wouldn't have given 2 cents for it. Small 4 strokes just don't cut it for me.

If I was looking, I'd be looking for the same reasons as you and a KDX is the only thing I would consider.

JeepDaddy 01-23-2003 02:20 PM

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Try to get one with the mono-shock suspension. They are a lot better off-road. I have a Honda XR250L I really like.

pbmcauliffe 01-23-2003 02:46 PM

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I'd look for an older Kaw KDX 200 or 250 (I think they made both). It is a 2 stroke but tuned for useable torque rather than racing high end.

[/ QUOTE ]
They were both made, but are off road only. They did/do make a 4 stroke dual purpose version called the KLR, I had one for awhile and was nice but heavy.

**DONOTDELETE** 01-23-2003 02:57 PM

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I'm a Honda guy myself, but that's usually a matter of irrational personal prejudices - so I'll recommend some others also.

Honda XR250L. Or, any Honda XR. If you don't mind (and legally may in your state) you can put a horn and the additional necessary lights such as brake and turn signals (optional in some states - like AZ) and turn your dirtbike into a dualsport. This is the best way to go because (in general) dirt bikes are WAY better off-road. Honda RFVCC engines run forever.

Suzuki DR350. Great all around trail/commuter bike. A little to street friendly and heavy for a true off-road bike, but worth a look. Older ones can be bought cheap. Started the second dual-sport revolution.

Kawi KLR's. I'm not a kawi guy, so I can't remember all the details - but they're worth looking at. a 250 or so.

Yami made TT's for a number of years. I never rode one, but as I understand, they'd make a fine trail/commute bike. probably more like the XR than the others. They didn't sell well, and would be harder to find.

Don't buy anything too old. Definitely mid 80's and newer. Stick with the major Japanese manufacturers and you can't go wrong.

Good luck.

And thank you for asking the 1st question on this board that I could reply to with intelligent answers!!!!


LEVE 01-23-2003 02:58 PM

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BMW...... $$$$$$ Cha, CHHING $$$$$$

But yes, nice. My Dads buddy has one, Very Sweet! but way outta of the price range for what I'm looking for.


[/ QUOTE ] 1. Here's what I rode in the 1960's and 70's, a 1957 R27, with a Steib Sidecar.


http://www.bmw-mono-club.nl/_derived...eek110_bnr.gif

2. It was the finest motorcycle I've ever ridden and I've owned:
a. 1954 Harley
b. 1948 Indian Cheif
c. 1970 Gurellie
d. 1971 Schachs
e. 1972 Kawasaki Mach III
3. I used to commute 60 miles a day, and
4. Then went:
a. Hill climing (with the sidecar attached), in the summer.
b. "Snowmobiling... (with side car attached) in the winter.
5. It was more fun than the Jeep! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

**DONOTDELETE** 01-23-2003 06:47 PM

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Look around for an older Kawasaki KLR650. They are great bike for general purpose riding. Plenty of power for the street and does ok on the trails. It isn't really make for motocross, jumping, etc. but it will go where Harleys fear to tread. I've had mine for 3 years and wouldn't hesitate to get another one. They've been made for about 16 years and a brand spankin' new one is only about 5K so an older model should be very reasonable.

bluseman2a 01-24-2003 08:37 AM

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5. It was more fun than the Jeep!

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HERECY!!!! [img]images/graemlins/cussing.gif[/img]

lomodyj 01-24-2003 10:50 AM

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LEVE,
J Peterman was offering a R71 (1939) that was being manufactured (new) by Ural/IMZ. With sidecar $8395. Don't see it on his site (www.jpeterman.com) today but...

LEVE 01-24-2003 11:17 AM

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1. Yep... Jeeezzz... I gotta get a job!
2. There's a Chinese company making a Steib knock off that fits BMW and URAL's for about $2000.

http://www.chang-jiang.com/bmw/grey1.jpg

3. There's nothing like turning right at 35mph and lifting the sidecar 3ft in the air and gliding around a corner...
4. Especially with a Port Townesend Cop in the sidecar!
5. Now that put a smile on my face!

lomodyj 01-24-2003 12:01 PM

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just scanned in the page from his catalog (summer 2001) Image is huge (don't go here unless you have atleast dsl...or some time on your hands...

http://www.mantadiver.com/r71.html

so how far O/T can we get with this thread


LEVE 01-24-2003 12:30 PM

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so how far O/T can we get with this thread

[/ QUOTE ]1. Keep it civil.
2. And you can go as wide as you'd like with the topic..
3. These topics usually die a natural death,
4. After the horse has been beaten for about 10 hours after it's already dead.

lomodyj 01-24-2003 12:32 PM

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So how far...was intended to be tounge in cheek...speaking of toungues...oh never mind


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