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post #11 of (permalink) Old 01-02-2003, 07:17 AM
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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

[img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Jeepchick bought a new house when she was still single and it was loaded with construction defects; [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] not the least of which was a "FAKE" fire alarm system... [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]..the units weren't actually hooked to anything. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]We knew we would have to sell the house eventually so I began pressuring the contractor to fix the stuff and he shined me on.. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]..just ignored it. THEN his hot-shot attorney tried to brush us off. [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] The mistake that he made was thinking CJDave was some "consumer" type [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] who didn't know his way around a courtroom.....HUGE mistake. [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] We ended up having outside contractors fix the stuff, carefully documented the expense, and sued him in Small Claims court. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] In CA small claims goes to 5K. [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] When I tossed a smoke detector on the table and the judge could see that the wires were never even stripped to connect to ANYTHING, it was a slam dunk. [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Once we had a court judgement, he HAD to pay us, and it was only one more step to lift his license [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] if we wanted to. Jeepchick didn't want to mess with it so I backed off after he paid us. [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] The thing about small contractors is that they are usually operating on less than zero money. Even if he WANTED to fix your dock the means probably doesn't exist. He's really a victim of his own inexperience, and unfortunately, he has made you the victim as well. [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Not everyone who does work knows what they are doing which is why I rarely...if ever....have work done by "others". Just feel glad that it isn't a house foundation or something more serious. [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

IM pretty sure the guy is out of money to fix it right, DAve, your absolutely right.

Now I just need to figure out whether its easier to work with him, or sue him for what he has ( nothing)

Itll be a cold day in aruba before I pay anyone to do anything for me.

I try once a year or so, and it always ends up being like this.

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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

I'll cut right to the bare bones of the issue. You have basically paid a guy good money to screw up your boat dock. Sure you could sue, but it sounds like it would be a hollow "moral victory" since it sounds like you wouldn't ever see any money from the guy.

I would simply not pay him the rest of the money. Figure out how much he has in the new floats, which you can reuse, and chalk up the remainder you have paid as lost. Whenever you use an unlicensed contractor, you are taking a gamble for the reduced cost. Often unlicensed contractors will do a fine job, I used to make a bit of side money doing home improvements and repairs myself. I always left my "clients" very happy, because without good references an unlicensed contractor has nothing to prove his worth.
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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

this guy actually had good references, one being my neighbor!

I talked to him yesterday, of course he wants more money to redo it, I told him I wasnt paying any more money for what he should have already done, and he admitted now he cant afford to buy the correct floats..

so now IM trying to decide whether to let him walk and try and resell the floats, or pay the difference in teh floats and get it finished.

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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

OJ...reference your last post...I would be done with that guy...consider it a sunk cost, ie, don't make your next decision with the sunk cost as a part of the criteria. I don't think he will try to pursue the remaining 50% knowing that the job was not done to standard. Sucks but m [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]ove on.
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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

I agree, I seem to get the short end when I hire someone to do home or auto repairs, that's why I do them myself if at all possible even if I have to buy (invest in) special tools.

When I lose money to something like that, I chalk it up to the "tuition" account. Just like paying money to go to college to learn, this also qualifies as "tuition" and I make sure to remember the lessen it bought...Sorry the guy's poor planning made you pay for his lesson.

In Kansas, a win in small claims doesn't do much since it's up to the winner to collect, which doesn't really support non-violent methods of collection from the loser and therefore you're still not ahead or even. One guy I heard collected by going "shopping" in the other guy's garage while he was out and bringing home lots of tools. Probably not a recommended method, but at least he got something out of it.
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Re: O/T Incompetent Contractor, what do I do?

I think Im going to draw up another contract ( with some good padding for me) and let him have a go at fixing it, and stipulate that I be there and approve of every change made, it sucks that Ill have to oversee the work ( I mean I could have done it to begin with) BUT its probably easier than trying to get blood from a turnip.

thanks for all the advice, and ive learned that form now on Ill use My OWN contract and not the one supplied by someone claiming to be a a "contractor"

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