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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-11-2002, 09:06 PM
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Any NEW news on jeep autos??

i'm not doing the auto vs manual debate, i have a chance to get a 4.0L auto for a decent price, i really want a manual but i need a new jeep before i go back to schoool and its in the price range, are they pretty good strenght wise for offroad.. can i sink it in mud pit and not worry about it filling up with water? thanks!
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auto for a decent price, i really want a manual but i need a new jeep before i go back to schoool and its in the price range, are they pretty good strenght wise for offroad.. can i sink it in mud pit and not worry about it filling up with water?

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We're talkin' auto here... right?

1. Strengrh wise is medium duty.
2. Sinking in mud and water... Not unless you want ot do a rebuild.
3. You need to do a vent relocation.
4. The transmission may not take the abuse in very many trips to the mud pits.
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Re: Any NEW news on jeep autos??

A buddy of mine ruined two 999's in mud and water. but you can do the vent like Leve said.

To Leve, not to pick on you but I was wondering why you always do the list(1. 2. 3.) on all your posts? I have been wondering for a while and just decided to ask.
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Re: Any NEW news on jeep autos??

You didn't specify "what year". If it's a 02 or older it's a 32RH/999/909/904 which has been around in one form or another for a very long time.

Disable the lock up torque converter
Install MASSIVE auxillary cooler
Relocate vent line
Install deeper pan w/extended pick up

The DC converters like to release some converter clutch material as they age(the only ones that I've ever heard of or had this happen with. This may be limited to the Caravan crowd, however - many frequent the local shops for such failures). I was quite dismayed when my SE had this feature. It only knocks about 200 rpm off the tach when engaged ...it's main feature, according to the owners manual, is to lower trans temperature. These trannies survived for many miles before the creation of the lock up torque converter. Since fuel economy is somewhat of a non-issue in a jeep ....a massive cooler should compensate for the added heat factor.

Unless you have an idle problem (as in too high - which is unlikely in a newer setup), an auto is, IMHO, easier on the drivetrain. Torque is constantly applied and the shock to downline components is minimized.

You gain some flexability in some areas ...lose it in others. The manual is fine in a rural, suburban, or highway environment ...around town, however, it's like a whole lot of motion ot go a few feet given the torque plateu of the 4.0. BTW- the AX15 is also considered medium duty.
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Re: Any NEW news on jeep autos??

1. Lumpy:
a. I'm too darned stupid to write, or spell, coherently.
b. I quickly get lost reading/typing paragraph form text.
c. The paragraph form, IMHO let's the writer ramble too much
d. And looses the writer from responsibility to be concise.
d. Did I say I'm dumber than a box of rocks? It's true! Ask my kids!
2. Numbering ideas and thoughts:
a. Helps me to keep to concise
b. And logical flow,
c. Perhaps it's an old computer programming habbit.
3. I prefer logical formats.
4. So, in deference to my fobiles, I number everything.
5. Perhaps it's a bad habit...
6. But for me it works.
7. I hope it's easier fro the reader to:
a. Read.
b. Digest.
c. Halt in process.
d. Process.
e. Pick back up and go on.
8. In all seriousness:
a. Does, in your opinon, this format irk you?
b. Does it make it harder for me to get my point accross?
9. Or to ponder.
d. Suggestions are sure welcome... in any format.
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Re: Any NEW news on jeep autos??

1) LEVE
a) I agree with you on the numbering scheme.
b) used it or bullet-points myself for years.
c) it has one other advantage you neglected to mention.
i) If you get tired of repeating yourself for people who do not LISTEN the first 37 times you tell them something...
ii) it allows you to quote chapter
iii) it allows you to quote verse
d) the next 37 times you can just say see response on auto-tranny, #3.a.iv from date MM-DD-YYYY

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Re: Any NEW news on jeep autos??

how do you disable the lockup convertor ?

where do you relocate the vent to ? (Mine already comes up the firewall to near hood level)

My Jeep already runs 210 constantly, I am affraid if I install a massive cooler. I will decrease the air flow to the point I will overheat. (I also plan to replace the thermostat with a 195 maybe that will lower the temp)
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I dont mind at all about you numbering lines instead of writing in paragraph form. I was just wondering why. keep up the good work. and do whatever makes you happy.

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there are alot of ways to disable the converter, the easiest would be to swap the input shaft, reaction shaft, converter and valve body.

ive heard folks talk about adding an electronic solenoid from a GM tranny into teh line on topof the valve body and adding a switch in the cab, but that would still allow the particles from teh converter clutch to enter the trans.

if thats what yor trying to prevent the best way is to run a differnt converter and the other associated parts.

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where do you relocate the vent to ? (Mine already comes up the firewall to near hood level)

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Scoobydoo, are you sure that isn't the transfer case vent?
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