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non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

Hi guys - I normally post elsewhere on the boards, but have some q's about Jeep axles. tried a search, but it came up with too many returns to be useable. anyway, I'm looking at doing a SAS under the front of my rig, and plan on going to a bigger rear axle while I'm at it. strength isnt really an issue, as my rig only wieghs ~2400 lbs, and I dont ever plan on going to anything bigger than 33x12.5's, but because of the construction, width is a BIG issue.

So, some really basic q's about Jeep axles:

1) what models/years have a drivers side front diff.
2) what width are those axles from wheel mounting surface to wheel mount?
3) what model axles are they?
4) which ( if any) of these axles came with the 5 on 5.5 wheel lug pattern?

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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

here is a good starting place http://www.jeeptech.com/axle/
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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

like you said - 'its a start'. most of the info I really need ( widths) isnt there, and a couple of the pages assume you already know which side the differnet models have their diffs. Looks for the most part like the axles I need dont exist though - I need minimum 60" width, and the 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern ( wheel offset & backspacing is critical to my setup as there's very little that can be done to the monocoque shell)


back to the early fords, I guess!
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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

I think that the closest you'll get with a Jeep axle is a D44 from a mid 80's Full size Jeep. It's driver drop, 61" WMS to WMS but it is six lug from the factory. It is easily converted to 5 on 5-1/2 with a Chevy spindle and Ford rotors. I have one from a '83 J-10 for sale. It is still six lug.
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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

your right.. those axles do not exist.. but you can convert the wagoneer 6 lug to 5 lug easily.. i have a write up on my page.. about how to do the front.. they are roughly 62" wms to wms... 1980-1986 Wagoneer 1987-1991 Grand Wagoneer.. they are both the same.. its just when the grands came out.. chrysler made the wagoneer into the cherokee.. or what we know of the cherokee as of today.. if you look around.. just ask for a grand wagoneer.. the full size ones..
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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

Jeepgod, rick - thank you. two final questions, I guess: based on the writeup on Jeepgods page,
1) it looks like the only non DIYpart is getting the Chevy spindles turned down - do they require much machining, or is it specific to what model/year you pull the chevy spindle from??
2) rotors - are they vented, or non-vented ford rotors? ( I'm guessing vented,but just want to confirm that)

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Re: non-jeeper w/ jeep axle Q\'s

yes they are vented.. as for turning down the spindle.. you can use the stock wagoneer spindle on the axle.. just take the ford inner bearing with you to a machinist.. tell him that the bearing needs to go on that inner portion.. i think it cost my friend about 40 bucks for both of them.. and we only have 2 shops in town..
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one last q\'

probably something I should have asked before - whats the width between the wheel mounting surfaces using the D44 with chev spindles? (tryign to figure out what rear end I'd have to use with it.

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Re: one last q\'

wms to wms with the 5 lug conversion.. is 63"
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Re: one last q\'

gracias - thats slightly wider than ideal....but better than I'd hoped for 8^D the guys on the ford board tell me that certain earlier 2wd F100's had a 62" wide 9" rear, so I'll most likely go with a modified waggy front, and 9"rear with 1/2" spacers to even it all up.

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