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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-20-2002, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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Steering shaft length problem

I'm almost done with the AFW frame change. It's taken a lot longer than I expected mostly because of shortened working hours from the cooler weather resulting from the month delay getting it to me caused by the trucking company.

I went to hook up the steering shaft and found that it's too long. It was tight before with the fiberglass body change but now it appears AFW has moved the front crossmember and the steering box back about half an inch. I need to shorten the shaft by about an inch.

I tried to take the shaft apart at the slip joint in the center. I drilled out the nylon rivets until I got to metal and tried to slide it apart, no go. I clamped the inside shaft and tried using a blunt chisel to move the outer section, but again no go.

This does come apart here doesn't it? Isn't this where it is supposed to collapse in an accident, keeping the steering column from puncturing my chest? I could cut the shaft to remove the inch and weld it back together with a sleeve but I'd rather do it at the slip joint.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

Why you have it apart, upgrade. Dont bother with the stock rag joints anymore and get the borgesion shaft. Speedway has all the parts to make your own shaft.

The stock shaft should come apart there. Put i have seen people have to put heat on them to get them to move.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

I would do the Borgeson shaft and joints. They are very good quality. I have also been considering the Flaming River easy shaft. THis looks liek ti would be very easy to use and fit in to a non stock application.

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Re: Steering shaft problem

I don't have a rag joint, mine has the ball in the cup type coupling. I didn't think anybody used the rag joint in years. Even after 22 years and nearly 300,000 miles, mine's still tight, no play. It's just too long now with the AFW frame and 'glass body.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

I had to heat mine after drilling out the plastic, only then would it slide.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

We had the same issue with Mob's when the joint seperated at the firewall during the DR. I beat on the shaft for a good while, squirted, heated, and banged somemore before giving up and just adjusting the steering column forward from the dash side. Any chance you could do the same??
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Re: Steering shaft problem

It's apart. The inside shaft has a couple grooves in it about 1/4" wide and about 1/16" deep that run all the way around the shaft. One groove is under each hole in the outer shaft. At assembly, with the inner shaft in place, they inject plastic into the holes on one side until it comes out the other side.

Took quite a bit of heat and hammering to melt out the plastic and overcome the 22 years of rust. I'll probably grind new grooves and inject it with epoxy when I get the length right.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

Now that you have it apart...is the body too far forward? It doesen't take much. That's how I foud out my body was too far back on my AFW frame. I just adjusted the body forward and my shaft ended up the right length.
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Re: Steering shaft problem

Yes, the body is a little forward by about 3/8". The engine wound up too far forward by this amount (bolted in the tranny crossmember to set motor mounts) and I didn't have enough radiator clearance. When I put the clutch bellcrank in, it lined up perfectly, parallel to the firewall. I also had them put the body mounts in just a little low because the center top bow on the soft top was touching the fascia board on the carport roof. I also had them make the frame 3/4" long on the front so the winch bumper wouldn't hit the front crossmember. Doing some measuring, the front shackle bolts are about 1 1/4" further back from the front on the AFW frame than on the old one. That would be the 3/4" I had them add plus another 1/2". This seems to be verified by the drag link not being quite parallel to the tie rod. Everything added up and left me about an inch long on the steering shaft.
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