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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2002, 10:31 PM
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Now that the interior is finished, it's on to the "fun" part - reassembly. Normally I'd use nothing less than grade 8 fasteners, but finances are a hair tight, and I'm wondering if I can get away with grade 5 or 2. No competition or serious crawling in this rig's future, just old mining/fire roads and the occasional moderate trail.
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Grade 5 is fine, and some will even argue preferable to grade 8 because they'll give a little without snapping. Grade 2 "might" hold up in a mild roll but what you should ask yourself is, "is my life and the lives of those driving with me worth the difference in price between the weak and strong bolts." [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] I've snapped many a grade 2 just torquing them down so don't think I'd trust 'em.
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That's kind of what I figured - the cost between 5 and 2 is only about 3 cents a whack, so 5 it is. Thanks[img]images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]!
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Re: \'Cage mounting

When it comes to something serious as to bolting in a cage, and or other vital parts on a vehicle that would either mean getting me home or stranded on the trail I choose to spend the extra money. Especially on something so small in price. (Compared to axles, tire, [size/[price)

As far as bolts, you can buy grade 8 bolts by the lb at some places, and this is a lot cheaper and worth your whilein the long run. I always carry extras of all major bolts and parts etc...

That's my opinion..

I`d rather not be stranded and have to hike it our hitch a ride to the road where I can use my cell phone or what not..

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in my opinion, (whether you want it or not!) it is silly to cheap out on bolts. i picked up 10 Gr8 bolts, nuts, and 10 washers, along with 5 extra cap screws for my lockouts for a total sum of under $5 at the local bolt specialty store. those bolts were like 15 cents a piece... absolutely no reason to skimp on quality. look around for such a store in your area, they'll be 1/10 the price of Lowe's or most any place because they deal in quantity and dont have much overhead. I would go with Gr8 but Gr5 should be fine considering the distribution of the load and the fact that both have amazing shearing strengths compared to the stuff they're holding together.
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I've also got a bunch of 316 stainless stuff laying around (everything from -20 up to 7/16) - would they be strong enough to suffice?
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Every mention of stainless steel bolts that I can recall says that they are equivalent to grade 2 or less. Don't trust them for anything important that has a significant load. And anyplace you do use SS fasteners, give them a good coat of antisieze, or else you'll never get them apart.
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If you have a Tractor Supply in your area, they sell all sizes of grade 8 for $2.99 a pound. And usually, when you take them to the counter, they scan the $.99 tag on the register. I got 9 pounds of grade 8 for about 10 bucks. Just picked up a big bag of assorted sizes.
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No dice on Tractor Supply - I ended up ordering a box from McMaster Carr, along with all the other hardware I know I need at this point. Cheap enough - actually cheaper than a box of #8 sheetmetal screws at Home Depot.
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