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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-15-2002, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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Rear Axle Opinion

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Right now my rear axle is a Dana 44 out of a waggy, geared with spicer 4.56 gears, and it has a lockright. I just put a 360 in and although I havent had problems with the 258 I am kind of concerned now.

I didn't know if I should switch to a 14 bolt that I could get and then gear and lock or just put warn shafts in if I have problems.

Do you guys even think I will have any problems with shafts or would it be the lockright.
I would rather do the warn shafts so I dont loose the ground clearence or have to make a wrap bar. Just waiting to see what you guys think./ Mike
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Re: Rear Axle Opinion

Im not sure what you mean about the wrap bar?? the d-44 will need one just like the 14 bolt.. and if your d-44 has one already, then you can make it fit on the 14 bolt.
a detroit for a 14 bolt is only $290, what you have now is paid for. truth is you could probably sell your current axle and almost break even... the real question is tire size.. the 14 bolt is truly massive.. mine used to hit everything in the trail...
I know lots of folks running 350/360 with d-44 rears, and I have seen some breakage with big tires (38's or so).. breakage includes bent tube, axle shafts and 2 sets of gears. I have never seen a 14 bolt break.
another question.. what about the front?? assuming you have a 6 lug axle....whatcha gunna do??
I'd run the d-44 and carry spar parts. look for 1 ton stuff if you start breaking things.
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Re: Rear Axle Opinion

Keep the D44, the clearance lost with the 14 bolt isnt worth it unless you are going above 38's. But I would put in the warn shafts and go with a detroit. It's extra strenght just in case and beats a few hours worth of repairs on the trail.
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Re: Rear Axle Opinion

Im running 36's now. and believe it or not I have no axle wrap with SOA with my dana 44. I have never broken anything and have never had a wrap bar. Anyhow I would convert the front 44 to 8 lug to match the 14bolt.

I think with just 36's I would be hitting everything. My main concern is that lockright. thanks for the info. Mike
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Re: Rear Axle Opinion

Install a Detroit, that will loose the weak leak of the rear right now. A D44 detroit will be easy to sell down the road if you wanted to go with bigger rears later. Also get heavy duty axles made now and keep the old ones for spares.
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I'd say keep the d44 untill you start breaking things. Get a spare set of shafts ($60 from junk yards around here) and carry your spiders as spares. It all depends on the type of wheeling you do and how hard you push your jeep. I have an 8.8 with a mini spool on 32's and plan on running 36's down the road maybe adding a full spool and 4.10's but i don't paln on swapping it out since i've already put money in it, i'll just get some spare shafts and i already carry my spiders as spares. If i start breaking stuff every time out then i'll look into a swap though if H8monday can make one live i bet i can, d44's and 8.8s are pretty similar in size and streangth so i'd keep yours.

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What exaclty is a "mini spool" compared to a true "spool"?

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a mini spool replaces the spiders, a spool is a carrier.
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I had a scout D44, 258,4.56 gears, detroit, 35" SSR's. I havent had too many problems with the internals of the axle, other than a 3 or 4 twisted splines and one bent and twisted shaft, but in 2 trips I have broken and bent 2 housings, and spun an axle tube(this was even with the tube welded to the pumkin in a few spots). I have no problem with breaking shafts, but swapping housings, and all the brackets,pearches, and axle wrap bar mounts, is a p.i.t.a. I am currently collecting parts for a soon to be shaved c&c 14 bolt swap. IMO run the D44, carry lots-o-spares, and keep an eye out for a 1 ton.
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Mini spool has a cheaper name too..."Lincoln Locker"
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