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**DONOTDELETE** 09-15-2002 12:44 PM

Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Jeepers,
I've got a narrow track dana 44 from a commando, where can I get the slim 1.3 inch "freeze plugs" to seal up the hole in the axle flange? These can be removed to get to the backing plate bolts. Thanks!

elusive 09-15-2002 07:03 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
um... I have never seen a plug in that hole. what for??? I know my 2000 tj's rear d-44 didnt have them from the factory...

**DONOTDELETE** 09-15-2002 07:06 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
I think the idea behind them was to keep crap out of the drums... I don't think I'd worry too much about them. If you are running lots of mud it will get in the drums with or with out those little plugs.


WILL 09-15-2002 07:08 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
First, welcome to the board.
Second, thanks for filling out your profile.
Third, who convinced you that that hole is supposed to be plugged? There has never been a plug in that hole. Once the drum is on, the hole is covered by the drum.

pontiac58 09-15-2002 07:28 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Im glad i wasnt the only one wondering what you are talking about. I have done alot of rear work and never once have i seen a plug there.

cj5_pilot 09-15-2002 08:37 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
I had to get 1 3/8" plugs and use a die grinder to get them to the correct size to fit. Pain in the behind, but it works. According to the PO the rear axles had never been out of it before I got it (judging by some of what I found, I believe it) and the plugs were in the flanges when I tore it down. The size is odd as you noted and I had to adapt as noted above to get them to work. They probably AREN'T nessecary, but you can get some mud and water past it even with the tire and brake drum on I figure I'll keep them.

WILL 09-15-2002 08:46 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
You'll get way more water/dirt in through the 1/8" gap in between the drum and backing plate than you will through the miniscule gap between the drum and flange.

**DONOTDELETE** 09-15-2002 09:52 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Doesn't anyone have these plugs in their dana shafts? Each shaft has a plug in the flange which I presume is there to allow the use of a socket wrench to take off the 6 backing plate bolts. My haynes book said knock 'em out. The plug was pretty much like a freeze plug but pretty thin metal. Even with the brake drum intalled, there is now a large half moon hole allowing the elements to get to the brakes. It's a big hole. I thought I'd get replacements from 4wd or quadratec but they don't list them. I suppose I could have used a box end wrench to remove the backing plate nuts but it's too late now.
Thanks for the welcome by the way

BMB 09-15-2002 10:11 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
If I understand what you are saying, they are what I have heard called courtesy holes. If you look at Superior one piece axles for AMC 20s they have them in the flange. It is for access to the backing plate bolts. If this is what you are talking about I don't see how dirt etc can enter, because the drum face will cover the hole when it is put back on and I'd think the rim would cover most of the drum face. This hole isn't in the backing plate itself is it?

BMB

Pigpen 09-16-2002 06:40 AM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
BMB is right. I have them on my 1973 44. It is there to allow straight access to the bolts. The drum does not cover the entire hole. I lost mine also and don't know where to find them.

WILL 09-16-2002 08:12 AM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Hey, you guys are right about the drum not covering it all the way. I should have gone out to the garage to look first. Oh, well. I don't have anything in the holes and it's nothing to really worry about anyway.

elusive 09-16-2002 02:46 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
ahhh... i see now.. the 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern on the wifes tj with the different drum..means my hole IS coverd.. hence no factory plug..
(i love it when my hole is covered)

JEEPN 09-16-2002 03:40 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
"(i love it when my hole is covered) "

Yeah, we like it too...

Smokngun 09-16-2002 05:26 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
I cant say I have ever seen a "plug" in these holes. A plug wouldn't keep anything in or out anyways as the drum goes over the axle flange and covers this hole. Sorry for being no help [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img].

**DONOTDELETE** 09-16-2002 05:47 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Okay, So this is how things stack up: Smaller bolt pattern dana 44 axle flange "courtesy holes" are covered up. Larger bolt pattern wheels (the CJ's) have a large brake drum and wheel I.D. So the courtesy hole is halfway exposed. I don't wanna put on center caps, so if anyone can tell me where to get the plugs, I'm on it. Otherwise, I guess I'll fab up some sort of disc to pound in there. It's an odd size, so normal freeze plugs don't work.

pontiac58 09-16-2002 06:27 PM

Re: Where can I get dana 44 axle \"freeze plugs\"?
 
Measure it with a set of calipers. Go the the local machine shop have them make you steel plugs and have them knurl the edge. That way you can pound them in and have the knurl bit in and hold.


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