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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-29-2002, 08:49 PM
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Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

NS 7.0 was released today, just downloaded that 26mb monster. Looks like they fixed my big complaint with 6.2, 7.0 loads real fast, even faster than Opera. Looks like they finally have a winner with only 3.4% [img]images/icons/laugh.gif[/img] of the market! One nice thing, if you are on a dial up and don't feel like having a day long download, they'll send you the cd for free, just 3 bucks shipping. Looks like they are trying to get some of the market back. One feature I really like is you can open up new windows with tabs at the top, no having them in the task bar at the bottom. Its kind of like the idea with Excel.
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 08-29-2002, 08:57 PM
 
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

Check out Mozilla at mozilla.org. The code for all versions of Netscape come from mozilla. Netscape 7 is built with Mozilla 1.1, but it is missing one really nice feature of Mozilla -- pop up window blocking.

Yep, since AOL owns Netscape now, and since AOL depends on advertisements that use pop up windows, they took the option out of the preferences.

I'm using mozilla 1.1 now and I love it -- just like you said, tabbed browsing rules!
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

I had heard it was built on the Mozilla platform, now it all makes sense!
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

Heh, I ran it for a while today. Most sites worked, some did not (as usual)... Checked the memory footprint... 50 Meg memory with only 2 tabbed windows. Once again, no thanks, I will stick with Opera and NetPositive, and IE when those don't work.

One good thing though, the script I wrote to block out Netscape 6 for our ASP app, worked flawlessly with NN7, so no extra work for me [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

Netscrap!

My footprint with 2 windows in IE is 38MB. I'm happy with IE, I have tried Netscrap and didn't like a single feature. Haven't tried Opera yet, why change what works fine?
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

IE Hmmmm talk about security flaw....

Anyway, Mozilla has my vote. I have not uninstalled Netscape yet, but I will never update them again. I have no desire to get all that AOL trash every time I install software.

IE -- if I could uninstall it, I would. As usual for a M$ product, update update update all the bugs and flaws.

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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

i use mozilla, but may download for kicks. my friend downloaded net7 last night, and loved the tabs, but hated the pop ups and other AOL crap. he then uninstalled it, and threw away everything AOL or netscape related. he then reinstalled it without registering it. voila.... no pop ups and no ads.... the key is to not register it...
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

I agree that IE has secirity flaws, but I don't think it's because of bad design. M$ has the best programmers that money can buy.

The real reason IE is exploited is because it's the most popular web browser. If I was going to sit down and maliciously exploit a vulnerability, it would be with a product that everyone has.


Most viruses these days are W32 based, meaning that they only affect Windows OSes. Once again, if you're Joe Scriptkiddie writing a virus for attention (which 99% are), then you're going to pick an OS or program that is the most popular, therefore creating the most havoc. People exploit UNIX systems all the time, there are bugs and vulnerabilities there, but you don't really hear about it - because it's easier to find a PC on the web that runs Windoze.

Then there is the crowd that harbors the conspiracy theory, thinking that Big Bad Billy Gates is out to terrorize the PC world.

Before a release of one of the hotfixes for Windows, I discovered a bug that would let anyone exploit administrative shares on W2K machines, all without having to write a single line of code. I didn't use it maliciously, I just used it to drop a couple dozen bogus icons on the desktops of my buddies at work. It's also easy to write a 5 line script that will give you a limited root shell on UNIX boxes.

It's a matter of personal preference as to which browser you like. I prefer simplicity, therefore I choose IE. I don't need the bells and whistles of Netscape. I like the KISS methology, less features = less stuff to break.

All in all, no program is void of vulnerabilities. Computers just execute the instructions that humans gave them.
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Re: Anybody try Netscape 7.0 yet?

Just for the heck of it I downloaded Mozilla 1.1 last nite. Love it, just like NS7 without all the bull****. The only reason I'll even keep NS on my machine is testing code.
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