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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-29-2002, 06:10 PM
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No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

Alright so instead of desecrating a Commando I located an operating scout today, but it has no Title. I was thinking I would take the axles and transfer case from it, but would the tranny be a good one to harvest also (it is a 4 speed standard)? Hate to do it to a scout. My first 2 vehicles were scouts.. Also there was a toyota Land cruiser there anything off that that might be useful?

Not really interested on messing with a commando until I get a CJ or 2 set up right.
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 07-29-2002, 07:28 PM
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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

do a search on scout axles,i gather from on here the front axle is a pretty involved swap.where are you findin all your vehicles(backyards)?what exactly are you lookin to do with your rig,i just bit the bullet and totally rebuilt my dana 30(750.00cripes).axles strength are dependant on your motor/driving style/tire size.i beat the dog snot outta my truck (our terrain hardly ever allows for complete traction so chances of breakage are reduced dramaticly)with ok results.i also know of the whereabouts of a fiber glassed tub cj7 ,rotted out frame parts vehicle that has jeep golden eagle axles under it along with the stock 83 cj7 axles,new weber carb and perfect running 258 straight six.id like to get my hands on it but im still messin with cj5s right now.
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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

If you have a good running scout, you could probably sell it for more than a custom D-44 front axle would cost you.

Land cruiser parts are even more expensive. If it is running, sell it and then get whatever you want for an axle. Parting one out could get you a pile 'o cash.

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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

The golden eagle had the same axles as the rest of the CJ's. There were some with the quadratrac but except for the rear being offset and the shafts being different lengths, they are exactly the same.
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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

You need to be more specific with what you're asking for. Hard to tell you what's in a rig without knowing specifically what year rig you're looking at. I was considering a set of '77 Scout II axles for a Jeepster Commando. They would be nearly ideal with a track width of 57" and both front and rear being Dana 44's. The front had disk brakes too. Would have been a heck of an improvement over the 50" wide Dana 27 front and Dana 44 rear with 10" drum brakes. Problem is that '79 and earlier Scout II's had zero degrees caster in the front axle. To get the knuckles cut off and re-attached with around 5 degrees positive caster was going to add about $350 to the price of the deal. The 1980 Scout that was only in production for half the year came with 1 1/2 degrees of caster. Still not enough to be desireable for a Jeep, but better.
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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

The only peculiar thing i noticed about the front axle was that it had disc brakes and six bolt hubs,that and the guy claiming he took them off his last jeep(golden eagle rust out).i thought maybe they threw in a limited slip or something for the package.
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The cost is insignificant, in other words cheap. But I am ignorant about caster, I thought that it had to do with how you set up your brakes and wheels, I did not realize it involved the axles/tubes themselves, is it the way they are attached in the 3rd member? Please enlighten me. Also any ideas on a tranny its a 4 speed standard mid 70s. I can bring the whole thing home but then I'd be tempted to save it.

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Re: No to Commando how about a Scout as Donor??

As to your question about IH transmissions here is a great link that should help you find if the trany will work for you.
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Re: Its a Scout II

I would have to defer to someone else to explain the caster thing. I barely have a grasp on it myself. More positive caster helps the steering wheel return to center when let go, a good thing. Not sure how Scouts handle without it. One could use caster shims, but for every degree you raise the caster with shims, you lower the pinion angle which complicates driveline angles. Check the links to Scouts for transmission info. My "Standard Catalog of 4x4's" shows both T-427 &amp; T-428 4 speeds used, but I think that's IH's designator for something else.
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