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post #1 of (permalink) Old 07-26-2002, 05:50 PM Thread Starter
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Axlewrap ?

Ok... I need to take care of my axlewrap NOW!

Is there any cheaper way to do it than purchasing the Trac-Bar from Sams4x4.... will the Sams4x4 Trac-Bar kick [censored] and eliminate my axlewrap problems????

http://www.sams4x4store.com/specialt...Traction%20Bar


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Re: Axlewrap ?

Most people build one that is like the Sam's one, if you don't have the means to build one (or a friend to build one) then you buy on. A triangulateed traction bar will eliminate the axle wrap, not just help lessen it like most other designs. Search on this site, traction bars for SOA are covered a lot.
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Thanks for that info!

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Re: Axlewrap ?

i think the consensus is that those are the best style.

I personally greatly dislike sam's offroad though....they aren't very friendly....and seem to want you to pay outrageous prices for some of their stuff.
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Re: Axlewrap ?

Really,... I haven't purchased from them yet..

Where do you suggest purchasing that item?

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Re: Axlewrap ?

I think Parts Mike sells them. He is a great guy, his products seem to be consistantly good quality, and everyone I have ever talked to that has done buisness with him has nothing but good comments.
If he doesnt sell them, I have a freind in Chico Ca,(Sillyfab Products) that fabs them for a good price,(I think $200, but I can check if you want me to).
In any case the triangulated trac bar with a shackled front link, is in my opinion, the only viable option (short of complete, 4 link, wishbone, or triangulated link suspensions)) to eliminate axle wrap, without adversely affecting your SOA suspension.
You will actually gain much more then just peace of mind with the addition of a trac bar. You will notice a deffinite improvement in steep climb traction, and hard exceleration.
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haha I didn't know, looks like h8 had it all figured out.
I once sent my dad up to purchase I believe the left rear side of wheel bearing.
Anyways the seals he gave me normally cost about $4 a peice(2 seals at most), then the most I believe I've ever spent on a wheel bearing is $18.There might have been the more expensive seal($13) in the stuff he gave me.I forgot, but I don't think there was.

Anyways..They charged my dad $70-80 for about 30-40 dollars worth of parts.
Next time I redid everything..I went to another local 4x4 shop(harmons) and got both sides, with all seals for cheaper than that or right about that price.

The last time i went in to get a steering brace, I was spoken to kinda like I didn't know what the heck I was talking about.Anyways, other people I guess came first...even the phone.
After waiting about 15 minutes, he had someone look which took less than a minute.
Ofcourse they didn't have them [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

hehe rant rant rant.
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Re: Axlewrap ?

That Sam's setup is a good looking unit. A couple of questions.
would it be better if the shackles were closer to the same distance from the axle as the forward spring shackle??? And what is a Johnny Joint??? Did you notice the welds on the shackle mount and cross member mount????
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Re: Axlewrap ?

This picture shows a Johnny Joint.



In this use the JJ allows the axle to tilt to one side or the other without binding the trackbar. Or in other words, having one tire higher than the other.

Read this install review. It has some good info. <a target="_blank" href=http://www.4x4review.com/products/suspension/traction-bar.asp>http://www.4x4review.com/products/suspension/traction-bar.asp</a>
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Re: Axlewrap ?

How come on sam's site it says youneed a new crossmember and on your pic you don't appear to be connecting it to one?

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