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post #1 of (permalink) Old 06-02-2002, 12:27 PM
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I need some opinions from you Jeep folks. Even though I love Toyotas, I know they don't compare to Jeeps in stock form. I don't go off-roading very much, but I want to enjoy it when I do. I had a Tacoma that got the job done, but I got beat up in the process. Then I rented a stock TJ (in Moab), and I suddenly had a LOT more respect for Jeeps.

So, I'm selling my work truck (an 86 4Runner), and I need a replacement in the $10,000 range. Here's a few questions I have:

Is the 4-cyl adequate for moderate off-roading? Or should I just look for a Wrangler with the 6?

Are the '97-and-newer Wranglers a lot better than the previous generation? I ask because I can get a lot more toys for my money if I go '95 or earlier- BUT, I would prefer a newer one. I need this vehicle to be a daily driver for years.

Is reliability an issue? I'm not a mechanic in any stretch of the imagination, so I need something that won't kill me in repairs. That's why I love Toyotas, my 4Runner has 360,000 miles and has had very few problems.

Sorry for such a long post. I'd love to get some outside opinions- especially from anyone has switched from Toyotas to Jeeps. But seriously, any opinions will help.

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Hopefully welcome aboard.[img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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stick with the 6 cyl. You will be alot happier with it. No questions!!!!!!!!!
If 10G is your budget do some shopping. I would say you can find a good taken care of 97 (maybe 98)TJ if you look hard enough. That would be what I'd do. But beyond that there is nothing wrong with a 93 to 95.(did I just say square headlight were OK??????[img]images/icons/laugh.gif[/img] That way you can have a later model 4.0 HO and still get it under 10 grand. To each his own. Just look around to see what you can get in your area. None are perfect (although capable) stock. So get what you want and then build it how you want it. And BTW..........both have good road manners.
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If you are going to stick with a 97 or newer TJ, take your time and find one with the Dana 44 rear option, the 35 is a terrible diff. BTW, all YJs have the 35.
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Thats true Brad, but I would bet that would put him out of the price range he's looking to stay in. That is unless he is REALLY lucky.
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the 35 aint ALL bad.....i've only have my 97 for 2 months....so i havent had any chance to break much....

but my buddy had a d35 on his YJ and 31" tires and we absolutly pounded the crap out of it....never had a problem.....

so if you're looking for a weekend wheeler..the d35 isnt bad as long as you stay 33" tires and under

just my opinion
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go with the 6cyl for SURE
get a 91 or newer yj which has the 4.0 with fuel injection
or go with the 97-up tj- all FI and coils
D35 rear is fine if you don't go totally radical rockin
i would get the newest you can with the $
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I'm with most of these guys. The TJ in stock form with slightly larger tires will about blow the doors off a similar YJ. Definately insist on the 6 cyl if you intend to drive it all the time. As for the D35, Sas is right, they arent' all bad, as long as you don't have a lead foot on the trails or 500 hp under the hood.

Personally I'm running one right now behind my 350, and haven't managed to break it yet... (I wish I could so I could convince the wife it was a necessity to upgrade [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] )
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every time...every singl;e time I go wheeling I see another broken d-35. most of these are under 4bangers jeeps too...
I believe if you are frugal and watchfull and patient you could score a 97 tj with a d-44 for $10k
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Thanks for the replies guys... keep 'em coming!

The 35 or 44 issue isn't a big one with me. I will never go crawling, mainly because I'm just not that interested in it. I love taking on long trails with a few obsticles, and that's about it. (Perfect example- White Rim, Moab.)

I figured the 6 cyl. was a better choice, but it's good to hear it from someone else. I'll definately stick with that.

I just saw a '99 TJ Sport w/48k for $11,000 (at a "no haggle" dealership). I might check it out. I've been kind of curious about a '97 w/82k for $9000, but I'm not sure I want that many miles.

I left a similar post in the Toyota section, but so far nobody is making a good argument to stick with Toyota. Maybe there isn't a good argument.

Here's another question: Automatic or Standard? Obviously it's a personal choice. I've always driven 5-speeds, but I know the autos are good for off-road. What do you guys think?
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You had to mention White Rim, didn't you. That brings back a very bad time I had on that trail 17 years ago. It's a 2 day trail, very long, but easily doable in a stocker. So, we planned on camping in that camping area halfway, got a permit and everything. Got caught in the worst wind/sand storm the locals had ever seen, that includes the old ones, and had to do it in one day. That fricking red blowsand was inside of stuff that was inside of stuff. The bad part was it got up in my pilot bushing and ate it up. One really weird, spooky day.
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