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AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

I have a 1988 Wrangler and the Peugot BA-10 just took a dump. I can't find another so I wondered is an AX-5 would bolt right in. Anyone know? It's a temporary fix until I get the new drivetrain in and scrap the engine, tranny, transfer case, and axles. I don't want to dump a whole bunch into this.

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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

Hate to say it but no.. The shaft for the t case is a different size. Also the shifters are in a different position some cutting may need to be done. You also need the bellhousing, shifter. I have Just done mine but I need to make a new skidplate cause my shafts were angled wrong. Good Luck
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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

Thanks James,

I guess I'll just have to move up the V-8 conversion that I was hoping to put off until later this summer.

Happy trails!

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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

The AX-5 isn't much, if any, better than the BA-10. My friends grenaded 2 or 3 of the AX-5's. They're junk!! Well, he does drive a bit hard, but come on!! I'm doing pretty good with my AX-15 so far and 35" tires. I don't really want it to blow, but boy o boy wouldn't a nice granny low 4 speed do wonders!!!
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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

i did this swap (ba10/5 to ax-15) on mine about 3 yrs ago. i can tell ya almost exactly what you need to get this done in an almost factory setup. email me direct and i can fill in the details. i can pretty much supply you with part numbers needed for things. if i cant supply wou with part numbers, i can get you in contact with places that can get you what you need
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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

Do you konw what the total cost was for your conversion?? And could you share it?? I also have the BA10 and while it's still working wonderfully, I'm looking into alternatives. Thanks for the help!!
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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

Thanks. I think I'm going to scrap the whole idea and spend my time building the 350 and stuffing the D44 axles under. I was hoping to drive it around while I was building the new engine, but I think I'm just going to gut it and get it ready for the new drivetrain. If I could find a direct bolt-in with no other work involved I'd still do it, but the AX-5 sounds like a little extra work and I can't find the BA-10.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: AX-5 bolt in for BA-10 on Wrangler????

parts required and ordered from j&w autowreckers:

bell housing (external slave)
shifter
input spline for 231
t-case shifter and bracket
cost....approx $500
recommended but not required, new skidplate

www.jwjeep.com

you can call and ask for the drivetrain specialist and tell him what you are wanting to do.

dealer:
throw-out fork
cost....$20

clutch kit:
luk pro-gold for dodge truck (complete kit), p/n:05-901
supplier: dial-a-clutch phone: 800-938-1195
www.dialaclutch.com
cost: approx $200

clutch hydraulics:
mopar p/n 34665305
cost: dealer approx $175, can be found cheaper from omix-ada and crown retailers
before you install this setup, you have to remove/cut off the lower stud and drill a hole for a bolt approx 3/4" below the stud. you will have to drill out the plastic rod end to 1/2". the application that uses this setup uses a 3/8" clutch pedal pin. you will have to thin the width of the rod end some so you can get the cotter pin back into the clutch pedal pin, its about 5/16" thick when finished. you'll have to thin the rod end a total of an inch in diameter from the center of the rod end's hole
i found out after i replaced the whole assembly (my first one), you can replace just the failed part (slave, master or hose) by tapping out the roll pin at the swivel joints. a fine place for piece parts or whole assembly for this setup is www.restore4x4.com . i am not sure, but if you are very handy with making tubes, but you may be able make a line from the original hydraulic cylinder to a metal (bodied) slave. i do not know how feaseable this is. i went with the easier option and i do not know if the metal slave will work for this application.

ax-15 tranny
cost varies. it is VERY important you specify a long front retainer, small pilot transmission. this is the best tranny for this conversion. it allows you to use the factory pilot bearing. later model cherokees use a different t-case shifter bracket than do the wranglers. make sure you get the tranny housing that matches your shifter style.

since you are gonna be in the t-case to replace the input spline, why not do a sye conversion too. best personally recommended source is tom wood's custom driveshafts. www.4xshaft.com great guy and even better service.

in the end, its gonna run close to $2k. but.....it eliminates alot of worries and headaches. the external slave cylinder makes its a piece of cake to replace if it starts leaking, as opposed to the ba10/5's internal slave. here are a few pics of the clutch setup. at the very worst, you lengthen the t-case/tranny assembly by about an inch.
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