Well, I went to my local Big-o Tire store to gat a price on the new BFG MT's. As mentioned previously on this board, they are on national back order and they did not know when they were going to be able to get them. I got a price on them anyway (33x12.5) $180.00 a piece (ouch). Then the salesman told me he had a set of Wide Climber RVT 33x12.5 take offs that had about 50 miles on them. He would let me have them for $400.00 plus tax. They were not what I originally wanted but what a good deal. They also took my 4 used 31x11.5, 2 about 50% tread, 2 about 25% tread, and new spare, and gave me an almost new 33x12.5 Big-O XT for a spare. So I got 4 almost new Wide Climber RVT's, and almost new Big-o XT for $400.00 and my old tires. Like I said, not exactly what I wanted, but a heck of a deal.