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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-17-2002, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
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30 strong as 60!

ok, maybe that will get some attn. seriously, my 30 has warn axles w/297 joints and full circle clips, over axle truss, 456's, and possibly a detroit pretty soon. i have quite a bit of money into it, and am reluctant to switch to a 44 if it isn't a LOT stronger. i have a dodge 44 sitting in my backyard, but don't want to do more than 1 swap. i wheel hard, and like to test the capabilities of my jeep. would i be better off to save and get a 60, or is the 44 strong enough?
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Re: 30 strong as 60!

With this setup you can have a 44 that is bomb proof. warn shafts and ctm joints.


I don't think that 30 will last to much longer if you do any serious wheeling. not that the warn shafts will not hold up, its the ujoints that will fail..

Do a search on CTm on this bbs and you will find some useful info.

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Re: 30 strong as 60!

I run a 44 in the front with 36" swampers, 4.56s and a lock-right with no problems in my CJ7. 44s are usually good for 38" tires IF you're careful with the stupid pedal.

D60s are heavier (not sure how much) than 44s, plus you'll lose some ground clearance - about 3/4" if you shave the 60. Upside is I don't see it breaking with a 258. Doownside is you'll have trouble turning anything bigger than 36s even with gears with a stock 258. It's just too much weight.

If you have the cash to spend on 60s, then by all means go for it. I happened to pick up a pair of 44s cheap so I went that route.

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Re: 30 strong as 60!

I have a friend that has ruined four D30 front ends, usually with ring gear failures after he went to the HD shafts and hubs.

Here is one of his typical failures.

Since he went to the cryo'd treated gears, he hasn't has a problem with breakage. In fact, he's so happy, he's forgotten about swapping in the D44.

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