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83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

I'm going to look at a 83 CJ-7 this weekend, guy wants to get rid of it. Says the 258 was rebuilt about 35k ago, rebuilt tranny last year and a brand new clutch. What's the chance that the tranny is a t-176 or t-5 and which is better. For a $1000 it doesn't sound like a bad deal. Body is a little rough he says btu the frame is pretty solid. Anything special to look out for other than the normal stuff.

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

Could be a T4, T5, SR4, or T176. The T176 will have a straight shifter with just the bend where it goes in the shift boot. The T4, T5 and SR4 all use a more "S" like curved shifter. The T176 will be the strongest, followed by the T4 and T5, while the SR4 is weakest. I don't know your plans for it, but if they include just about any off roading you will probably want to dump the T4 or T5, they will hold up for a while, but aren't very rugged. From what I hear the SR4s are really weak and get trashed just from street driving. The T176 should hold up pretty well, but it does not have a low 1st gear that most rock crawlers prefer. I'm not trying to scare you out of anything, but just make you aware of what to expect. I got my 83 CJ knowing I would someday have to replace the T4.

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If it does have an SR4, an early 83 might, avoid it unless you can get a killer deal because you will have to replace the trans. The T176 is strongest of the bunch, they even used them in 1/2 ton J trucks, but 1st gear is a really crummy 3.54. The T4/5 has a 4.03 first, pretty good, and it should live awhile if you are not planning on running bigger than 33s and not going to beat on it.

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

Ok so if it has the t-176 its a staright stick, if it has the sr-4 I know that reverse is down and up to the left. How about the t-4 and t-5, is reverse in the "normal" position or is it like the sr-4. I was just wondering some quick determining factors, but i guess I could just crawl underneath it. I know I'll be under it anyways.

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

It will be in the same place as the T176. The T4 and T5 shifters are curved where the T176 is straight as you know. There's a page somewhere that has pictures of the different trannies. I'll try to find it.

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

Here's the page that has pictures of the trannies.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

Thanks Rick, that should help out alot

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

T4 and 5 should have reverse right and to the back.

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That web page with the trannies has the T4 and SR4 on the same page, thats really wrong. The T4 and T5 are virtually the same trans, the SR4 is very different. The weak spot in the SR4 is the ball bearings rather than tapered roller bearings.

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Re: 83 CJ-7 purchase, what tranny is in it?

Okay, so I went to look at the Jeep this morning. I had a very hard time getting it into 4 lo. The tranny was rebuilt about a year ago. Could new gears meshing with old gears cause this or is there something wrong with x-case? II bought it anyway, but I'm already looking for work to do on it. Oh btw, it does have the t-5 in it.



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