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What Drivetrain in \'73 cj w/304 & 4 speed?

I saw a '73 cj today at a salvage yard/auto sales place. I stopped just to see what he wanted for it, but didn't get to look at it real close, it's at the end of his lot as you drive by. He told me it has the 304 v8 and a 4 speed, runs good and the 4wd works. I'm going back tomorrow, probably to buy. He wants $850, I'll offer $700 to start. It has a bad tie rod w/ a new one that comes with it, bad paint, but not a lot of rust. He lost the key, so it's been hotwired, supposedly only used for hunting, and he has a title. I searched around some, and I think in '73 with the 304 it should be the T-18, Q-trac, and M20 rear. Does this sound right? Any major things to watch out for? I know about he 2 piece axles on the m20 being a weak link, but any other common problems? There's no top or doors on it, but I won't need them anyway. Sound like a good deal? I've been wanting a good CJ for a trail only toy, and I think this may be a good one for that.
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Re: What Drivetrain in \'73 cj w/304 & 4 speed?

Im not sure a Qtrack was ever offered behind a manual tranny.

Most sources say the T18 never came behind the V8 in Cjs, although Ive heard a few guys down thru the years swear they bought one brand new that way, but they were all in the late 70s.

I think they were using dana 44 rears that early, but not sure, those older ones are cool, but its a littel harder to find off the shelf body parts and such for the pre 76 ones.

hard tops are easy to find and cheap though!

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'73 CJs w/ 304 came with an optional T18 4-spd... note that this is a 4:1 version, not the oft-sought 6.32:1. Transfer case on all 70's manuals was the D20. Quadratrac was only with auto trannies.

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Okay, after reading the charts here http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/specgrid.htm, what you've said is right. With a 304, it should be a t-15 3spd d20 d44. He said it had a 4 speed, so has someone probably swapped this in?

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Only for one year , 1979 , the T18 was offered with the 304 in a CJ .



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ive heard that Jeepzilla, but dont tell Moses Ludel, according to the Jeep owners bible they didnt.

there is absoliutey no telling what came rolling off the kaiser/amc lines!



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Are you 100% sure it is a 4spd? I've found a lot of guys that didn't know jeeps came with a 3spd!

Here's a great link on the basics for different years of CJ5s:

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/cj-5.htm

I've checked the data, and it matches my '74 perfectly: 304 V8, T15 3spd, Dana 20 transfer case, Dana 30 front end, Dana 44 single piece axle rear, 3.73 ratios front and rear. One thing: the '72-75 jeeps are oddballs. They have the tubs and windshields of the '55-71, but the hood/fenders of the '76 and later. Also, a lot of the interior stuff seems to be unique to '72-75. At least that's what my parts research has uncovered. For instance I need a new defroster duct, and I can find them for '55-71 and '76 or newer, but not '72-75. Quadratech didn't know of a source. (I'm going to fiberglass over my old paper-like duct and redo it that way.) Personally, I think the '72-'75s are just about the ultimate STOCK CJ5s as you had the V8 and one of the better stock drivetrains (D44 rear D30 front). They also are nice and basic (my '74 has a POINTS ignition!) and do without unnessecary frills such as sway bars and such. Bear in mind, my view of a great trail rig is narrow as I don't rock crawl, and there are very few highways in Alaska where I need to worry about high speed performance. That said, they are sorta short on creature comforts.

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Bob check Four Wheel Drive Hardware for that elusive defroster duct. That's where I got an ABS replacement for the cardboard one in my '75.

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I had a `73 bone stock, 304/T15/D20/D44 1 piece flange axel rear/D30front 3.73 gears. Curently own a `72 401/T18/D20/D44H.P.rear/D44(Scout)front. It came to me 304/T15/D20/D44rear/D30front 3.73 gears. All `73-`75 CJ5`s that came with the AMC 304V8 had that drivetrain.

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Thanks snowtow! I'll hit them ASAP!

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