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waggie d44 front axle measurement????

I was wondering if someone may have the measurement from upper ball joint to upper ball joint on a pre 80 (passenger side diff.) wagoneer front dana 44. Let me know if you do.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

I have one at home and can measure it tonight and post it tomorrow morning if no one else can get it sooner.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

Alec, it's 51 inches on a '79 Cherokee. I think the Waggin' Ears is the same, but I have also heard that they're different.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

Thats approx. 48" based on my previous measurements. The outers add approx 6 5/8" to each side to the WM - making the overall approx 61 1/4" WM to WM.

Some cherokees were different, there was a "wide track" cherokee, it was easy to distinguish because it had fender flares. Some cherokees did not have these flares.

Here is the chart on the measurements I did last year:
http://www.national-lighting.com/front44.htm

I would suggest when/if you get your axle, measure it yourself though. No harm in extra measuring to be sure.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

The axel I measured came from a flareless Cherokee. It could have previously been swapped though.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

Thanks Mel85CJ. Yesterday I just picked up a narrow track 44 and a HD AMC20 to put under my CJ. I was wondering if I had to mount my spring outboard when I cut 4 in off the long side and the chart was great.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

Well, it looks like I have a wide track axle...it's about 11.5 inches from the spring perch to the lower ball joint. I guess I'll be cutting both sides then! Any idea how much I should cut off? At least this axle has the flat top knuckles and the correct spindles on it. Thanks for you input guys and gal!

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

You didn't say how wide you wanted the axle to be when finished...

Same width as wide track CJ? Wider?

Are you going 6 bolt outers?

If you are here is the basic deal:
You need to cut the long side 4" to get the spring perch spacing the same. It seems like the axle you have is approx. the same as the Chevy axle we used.

Once you allow for the 4" cut of the long side, you need to figure out what width you want your axle to be. Then you allow for an even amount of cut on each side.

In our case, we had cut 2 1/2" off the short side & 6 1/2" total off the long side (4" + the 2 1/2" to match the short side)

This gave us an overall WM to WM of 58 3/4" - this is 3 3/4" wider than "wide track" CJ Dana 30.

If you wanted it to be Exactly the width of the Dana 30, then you would divide the 3 3/4" difference by 2 and add that to the amount cut on each side. Therefore, it would be 4 3/8" off the short side & 8 3/8" off the long side. (if this is making sense).

But whatever you do *Don't take my word for this* measure yourself about 5 times before cutting!

Another thing to keep in mind just as a side note is that the outers for a D44 are longer than for a D30, and you have to take that into account when calculating your WM to WM. You shouldn't just measure your ball joint to ball joint on the axles. I do not have any data on what the D30 ball joint to WM length is, but the 6 bolt D44 is listed on my chart, 5 bolt D44 or 8 bolt D44 may vary.

Hope this helps, and again, be sure to measure for yourself. The rest is just math.

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Re: waggie d44 front axle measurement????

Mel,
What I have is scout d44 rear which is 58.5 wheel mount to wheel mount...I had planned on cutting the front d44 on the long side only and use ford hub/rotors. I guess now I'll be cutting both sides instead. Thanks for you input.

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