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post #1 of (permalink) Old 01-09-2002, 08:48 AM
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What should I do with my Jeep? pics

I've been working on my 75 CJ5 for a few days trying to put a 76 304 V8 in (replacing a 258). So far there have been nothing but problems.

1st problem: Transmission mount.
The mount was completly destroyed and squished flat. Aparently, the prevous owner (That S.O.B.) never took the time to replace this bad mount with he installed the fiberglass tub. So the transmission sat about 1" lower than it should have. So when I installed a nice new Poly mount the fiberglass tub now rests on top of the transmission and transfer case linkage.
The Fix: Install a larger body lift or drop the transfer case. I will probably install a larger body lift.

2nd Problem: The Pacesetter Exhaust kit
I bought the CJ5 complete in frame kit (Headers, Glasspacks, pipes and hardware). Well, I've got the engine in place and the headers are a problem. On the passenger side, the header dumps right in front of the transfer case!! There is no possible way to install this unless i want a 2WD CJ5. On the drivers side, the steering shaft is pressed hard against the header. I called 4WD Inc. tech support and they instantly passed me over to customer service who gives me an RMA number... (humm that's a little odd) So I take the number and ask to be transfered back to tech support. The tech guy then tells me that Pacesetter hasn't been bending the headers correctly and they don't fit. (nice job guys)
The Fix: Go with "out of frame" Headman headers and pray that they don't interfere with the steering.

The Question: What should I do now?
I've got probably $2500 invested in this motor swap (including cost of motor) and it seems like I need to spend more friggin money.

Should I just put the 258 I6 back in and try to sell the motor for what I've got into it? (yeah right, like anybody would buy it for more than $250.)

Being unemployed I have plenty of time but a limited resource of money.

Here is a picture of this project:
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Re: What should I do with my Jeep?

Fix the Jeep.. and drive 'er 150,000 miles. You'll loose more if you don't. Just take your time and fix it as money permits...

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Larry is right, fix it as money permits, take your time. See if you can get the $$$ back on the exhaust. I tried a set of in frame headers years back on my '84 and had the same problems. I don't know if you like them or not, but if your set on headers, a set of fenderwell headers and header mufflers will do the trick and probably be more reasonable. The body, sounds like a bigger body lift is the only way to go. Since your this far into it, I see you have a 2000 Cherokee for a daily driver, I wouldn't put the six back in, just more pain and labor down the road. Don't give up on her though...Someone on this board, I believe it was Jaffer.. not sure... committed to working on his Jeep one hour a day. I have a tight, very tight schedule.. so i've been doing the same.. one hour a day, even if it's just cleaning parts, sweeping the floor, you still feel like you did something. Feeling like your going backwards, or never going to get it together is a bad feeling, been there several times. Rick

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You could get a set of block hugger headers for your 304, then get an exhaust made, you may be able to use the Pacesetter exhaust with some modification? Good Luck:

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block hugger headers

Any recomendation on what brand and where I can get block hugger headers for a 304?

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Re: block hugger headers

try: http://www.stans-headers.com/headers.htm

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Re: What should I do with my Jeep?

MAN!

FINISH THE PROJECT! The first time you fire up that V-8 and lay the hammer down...you'll smile...and never look back!
Persistance WILL pay off!

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Re: What should I do with my Jeep?

I have a 72 cj-5.It was a basket case when I bought it.It took me about a year to get it into running shape.I found as I built it that sometimes it is better to walk away from it for a day or two or to do something to it that is not a big hassle.This I have found is better than stressing on it.Do some easy stuff on it for a couple of days.Paint the bumpers,paint the wheel wells,change some bulbs.Keep your mind on the finished product.Jeeps are made for fun not stress.Make a list of the stuff that needs to be done and somedays work on the easy stuff.Somedays you work on stuff all day without it seeming to have any effect.The next day do something were you can actually see a change.Good luck

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I would just get stock exhaust manifolds and be done with it. It is tempting to part out or sell things when you feel you are in too deep, but that's the life of a jeep nut. You are always going to spend more than you want. I bet everyone here can attest to that.

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Well, I'm starting to feel better about this project. I guess the stress got to me. I really cant wait to fire this sucker up.

The motor is almost in. I don't think the clutch is lined up perfectly. I can get the splines to bite but the damn input shaft wont go into the pilot bushing (I already test fitted the pilot bushing so I know it fits.)

Oh well, I'll try again tomorrow.

I am going to go with fenderwell headers and header muffelers. The block huggers look like they will be too close to the starter or the steering.

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