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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-26-2001, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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Advice prepping cage for paint

Hey all,

Thanks to Rice701, I'm getting ready to install my new cage. Before I get it back in though, I need to paint it. I'm prepping it now, and need some advice.

I'm going to paint it fire-engine red, using Rustoleum Professional grade paint (the stuff comes in the taller silver cans). I've used this on a couple of accessories and it is satisfactory.

The question is: The cage is currently stripped to bare metal (knotted wire wheel brush), what should I do to prep it for the most durable paint job? Should I put a primer coat on first, or just go on and put the main coats on? If I do put a primer on, how long to let it outgas before I do the main coats? Any other tips/tricks would be appreciated.

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Re: Advice prepping cage for paint

I don't know about paint, but a couple of years ago I had one powder coated for a K-5 at Millers Custom Coating in Lilburn. Really nice, and not expensive!

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Re: Advice prepping cage for paint

Hey dude, on my winch plate i used some of rustoleums zinc primer stuff and then used some of there black paint. Its really hard paint now and wont chip off. If it were my cage id use that or some other type of primer but i wouldnt do it without the primer. We did a few coats of the primer(tells how quickly to reaply) and then a few coats of final paint(also tells you on can how quickly to reaply). Have fun dude, when you wanna get together next to work on it again? peace
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Re: Advice prepping cage for paint

I wipe down the metal with mineral spirits before any paint goes on to get rid of all the oily residue that might be on the steel. Mineral spirits and rags are cheap, I use a lot of both cleaning the steel. Paint doesn't stick to oil, grease, gas or finger prints.

Primer always. What does your paint manufacturer recommend? It's on the can. Use it - 3 light coats, read the can for drying times between coats. Can will also give you the drying time before final finish is applied. Remember LIGHT coats of primer are M U C H better than thick coats. Keep a rag, damp with mineral spirits, handy to wipe any runs. If you're putting on light coats there will be no paint runs,
.Hold the spray can the proper distance away from the metal - again read the can.

Finish paint. Again light coats. Sometimes they recommend a light sanding between coats on gloss paint. I use 0000 steel wool instead of wet/dry paper between coats for my painting. My first coat of finish usually is light enough to allow the primer color to just show through.


Probably the real painters on this board have a better way of doing it.
The above works for me.
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Re: Advice prepping cage for paint

Tell you what works great for my projects involving bare metal . Wipe it down good with de-greaser and then get some metal etch primer , spray can stuff works great . Follow directions on the can . If it`s something you want to look extra good , sand the metal etch primer with some 600 grit after , re apply de-greaser and paint . Did it this way with my front bumper and wowsers , looked great !! Good Luck .



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Re: Advice prepping cage for paint

JeepZilla has it! Primer (self etching on bare metal), wetsand with between 400 and 600 grit paper(careful not to sand all the way through to the metal. Dry and clean with mineral spirits (we used laquer thinner on one rag and wip dry with another immediately), tac cloth and your ready to paint. Tac cloth is not really necessary. As mentioned before, lighter coats are best. If its applied too heavy, it wont cure properly and it could shrink or crack(not to mention run). Good luck.

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I am going to triple what jeepzilla said. Self etching primer, sand, then the top coat. I have been using self etching primer for a couple of years now and it kicks butt. For coat thickness of primer, you should be able to see the writing of a news paper though it but not be able to read it. That is what my body man taught me and i have never had a problem.

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Hey, I'm about 7 miles away if you can use a hand. Even if you don't need a hand, maybe we can hookup for a few hours.

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CaverDave,

You've got mail, sent it to you earlier, but shot outta the house before I grabbed your cell#. Didn't get home at what I thought might be a "decent" hour, will try you in the morning, we're looking at cranking up around 11:00 or so at my place in Lawrenceville (near Discover Mills).

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