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CityHickTR 01-30-2005 07:22 PM

Need a little help
 
Whats going on? I need a couple questions anseared..

I have a 85 GMC stepside and I was curious how hard and what equipment i would need to do a body lift and where should I get it. I have 35' Tires on it right now and it looks crowded. And If i decided to upgrade to a 4'-6' suspension lift what brand? Where is the CHEAPEST place to get it? What is EVERYTHING I need should and should i go with all bigger leafs? Or just the front with Blocks in the back? Also I plan on painting my truck all Flat Black like the old Rat Rod look does anyone know where i can get flat black paint without it being in a spray can? Maybe a army base..hehe well I am already about 2 grand over my budget but it was all worth it.
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ChevyK20 01-30-2005 07:39 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
Suspension lift, with out question. You have several options 1. Design & build your own kit. By this i mean find individual components that are each the best quality/ price.
2. by a cheap 300 rancho kit on ebay w/ shocks and blocks that going to ride rouch and perform like crap.
3. By an $800 kit from sky jacker or some one with 4 spring and shocks and get a better kit.

Personaly if i was doing 4" i would choose option 1 and these are the parts i would use:
1. 4" shackle flip from www.offroaddesign.com gives the rear 4" of lift, and uses stock springs, no blocks! $185

2. Tuff country front 4" springs from www.jackit.com Best spring for the value $198.98

3. Rancho shocks, will give you a decent ride and a good price prolly 200 bucks for 4 from www.jacit.com

4. Pro comp brake lines increases line length to compensate for lift, increases braking force. 150 total for front / rear from www.jackit.com

5. Steering arm, about 60 bucks from www.jackit.com This is a vital part for a lifted chevy to keep steering geometry correct.

The total of all of these things turn out to be just about $800 and will perform better than any "off the shelf kit" and you can still up grade it later with better shocks, new shock mounts, crossover steering, more lift, sway bar dissconnects, the list is almost endless.

www.coloradok5.com Is an awsome website for product reviews. All of the products just listed were tested by these guys, you can read the reviews on all of those components. That should help!

c_rock 01-31-2005 07:38 AM

Re: Need a little help
 
If you went with a body lift I'd say 2" would be the max. They're just not that great as your primary means of lift.
ChevyK20 had some pretty good suggestions. You can get by with rear blocks if you're not into heavy off-roading.
As for the paint, you could probably find it at an auto paint store. Just about every good sized city I've been to had at least one store.

LUV24BY 01-31-2005 10:56 AM

Re: Need a little help
 
Thanks for that info Chevy! I may put some use to those recommendations myself! I need to get rid of the blocks in the back!

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SuburbanAssault 01-31-2005 01:06 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
The lift options have been laid out pretty well so far, i.e. - don't go with blocks! And C Rock is right, depending on where you live there should be a paint supplier around, just look in the yellow pages for paint supplies- most auto body shops get their paints from a local supplier and from my experience the suppliers do retail business too. Good Luck!

CityHickTR 01-31-2005 01:49 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
Thanks Chevy thats exactly what i needed to hear. I wasnt able to find a site with that much individual equipment. Now my plan is to try to frabricate those shackles(im a welder by trade) witch look fairly easy but you never know. I will start the lift within the next couple months when the money comes in.
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ChevyK20 01-31-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
i have seen them on ebay for as little as $110. on the front page just type in shackle flip and it brought me too it. the only thing about making them your self is that the brackets are made with an offset. if you were to look at a side profile of the bracket, its positioned so the mount is farther forward, i think its for pinion angle. Your welcome, its no problem, i like seeing guys getting there moneys worth. i wouldnt recommend it if i wouldnt do it to my own truck. another thing you can do to get even more performance from that same lift is to spend like an extra 500 bucks and do the following:
1. 4 bilstein 5150 shocks (travel will prolly be about 10-12 inches)+ 200 dollars www.jackit.com
2. www.MO-Offroad.com for new rear shock mounts. if your a welder you can get it with weld on tabs, that weld to the rear axle. $165
3. 1980 f250 shock towers. 30 bucks a pair. extendeds the shock length for more travel. any ford dealer will have these. heres an article on how to do it. http://www.coloradok5.com/ranchoreview.shtml
4. Off road designs sway bar dissconnect. the best dollar for dollar gain to your articulation score you can get! heres 2 articles, and were to get them:
Articles: http://www.coloradok5.com/swaybardisconnect.shtml
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/proje...r/swaybar.html
Buy: www.offroaddesign.com

If you mook under http://www.coloradok5.com/review.shtml and http://www.off-road.com/chevy/reviews.html , they have tons of great upgrade ideas & reviews.

Personally i would go with the upraded shock mounts for 3 reasons
1. Much better ride quality on and offroad
2. Infinetly more dependable (rear shock mounts on chevys are notoruis for breaking)
3. Performance, this setup will outperform any stock located shocks ten fold. after all, isnt that what is all about?

Putting the 4" lift with this shock setup will give you an outstanding performer!

snowmancat 02-01-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
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well if you want to save a little bit more money than you can do a shackel flip like we dodown here it will give you 4" so take a look.

ChevyK20 02-01-2005 07:26 PM

Re: Need a little help
 
Ive seen this done before, but never felt comfortable doing it. If youve ever seen the off road design brackets, you wont want to cut your own. they are stong as hell. theres like 15 pounds of steel a piece. they really are the way to go.

LUV24BY 02-02-2005 11:00 AM

Re: Need a little help
 
Personally I think I would rather spend the money than cut the original shackle mounts. With my luck one of those things would break cuz I cut it too far!


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