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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-03-2000, 04:20 PM
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Silverado Debate

Could someone please clarify some issues that I have with the Silverado trucks? I'm pretty sure that the Silverados were only a package much like the High Sierra and not a truck name. Is it a fact that after 99 the Silverado is actually a truck and not just a package anymore? The debate started at the auto parts store when a customer wanted parts for a Silverado. The countergirl was not familiar with the different "C" and "K" designations that GM used. When I went to look up the truck in our computer I only found the C or K models using 5.0 and 5.7l engines. The 4.8L was actually listed under the model of "Silverado" contrary to the normal designations. Bottom line is: Does the Silverado have it's own name after 1999?

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Re: Silverado Debate

The Silverado is now the name of Chevy full-size trucks, similar to the Lumina, Camaro, etc. This started with the new body style.

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Re: Silverado Debate

So do they still call it a C or K and 1500, 2500, 3500?[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]


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Re: Silverado Debate

They still use the 1500, 2500 (and 2500HD?), 3500, etc. but I don't know how they designate 4wd. I don't think they use C and K at all anymore, not sure.

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I have a 1999 catalog which shows the new Silverado trucks with the 1500, 2500 and even Z71 designations. They do not use C/K for the new design trucks, but do for some carryover 1999 models. Just to make everything as clear as possible. In their words:"NOTE: The 1999 Chevy Silverado is an all-new full-size pickup and should not be confused with the limited-production carryover 1999 Chevy C/K Pickup or 1998 C/K Pickup models."

Try telling that to the guy looking for '99 Chevy Pickup parts.

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Re: Silverado Debate

Desert Chevy,
I would guess a "2500HD" is a 8lug 3/4ton, maybe a 14bolt Full Floater?
Or maybe it is just for the 3/4 ton crewcab's?
I am just guessing here[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

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Re: Silverado Debate

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a 2500hd is a 3/4 ton, 8 lug, 14bolt, with HD shocks and torsion bars. I think they are only available with the longbed and with the ext cab or crewcab. Most of them also come with a 4.10 rearend gear. As far as Silverado, they are the name of the truck itself. Chevy, Ford, Dodge all release their 1/2 tons first, then the 3/4's and 1tons 1-2 years after. 99 is a screwy year for them. so is 2000. the trim packages are now LS or LT. Before they were Cheyenne and Silverado.

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I was thinking Tex stated something about the 2500HD actually being equivelent to a 1-ton. That is pretty much what you said, but I still think there is a medium duty 2500 3/4-ton with 8-lugs, etc. If I am thinking right, GM is doing like Ford by having a few different 2500 platforms.

I think the 2500HD with the Duramax and 6-speed will be the truck to have in the next few months. Damn, I need to graduate and get a job so I can fathom the thought of owning one.

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What ever happened to the "good old days" when there was C/K, 10,20,30?? 10 was 1/2 ton, 20 was 3/4, etc. Parts were all the same and everyone knew them like the backs of their hands.

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<font color=purple>Yeah, the 2500HD is an as-of-yet unreleased single-wheel ONE-TON rated at 9200 GVWR. All '01 & newer 3500 models will only be available in dual real wheel configuration.

The current 2500 Silverado/Sierra & 2500 C/K are actually BOTH rated at 8600 GVWR & BOTH come standard with 9.5" SF 14-bolt, and a 9.25" IFS front - they also share trannys & standard T-cases. The only significant differences between an 8-lug C/K 2500 & an 8-lug Silverado/Sierra 2500 is the body style & engine availability.

My understanding is that you can get a 10.5" FF 14-bolt on 5-speed Sierra/Silverado 2500's (and POSSIBLY on big-block & diesel equipped C/K 2500's), but not with 350 powered C/K trucks & not with automatic 2500 Silverado/Sierras.

And the 6-lug "light duty" 2500 (essentially a "heavy 1/2" at 7200 GVWR) while previously available in 4x4 trim in the C/K models is only available as 2wd in the Silverado/Sierra line. All 8-lug 2500 Silverado/Sierras are actually "heavy 3/4 tons" at 8600 GVWR & as such, are emmissions & CAFE exempt.

To add to the 14-bolt confusion, the new 2500HD will be available with an all-new 11.5" FF "super 14" 14-bolt rear, though whether that's standard, or if it's an upgrade is unclear (maybe optional with the 6.0 & standard with the 8.1 & Duramax??). It will be standard on the 3500 though. And one last thing, GMC has used the Sierra name as a model name for a few years, though I suspect you can still reference C/K designations on all but the newest body style.

Now, one would wonder why GM would designate its single-rear-wheel one-ton as 2500HD instead of 3500. I don't know, but have a theory. First, despite a GVWR equal to the F250SD & the 2500 Ram, the 2500 Silverado/Sierra has a superior ride & drive, and is much more user friendly. Also, unlike those others, there is no engine upgrade over the base engine - no big block, no V10, no diesel. So, I think GM sees the 8500 GVWR F250 7-lug (which is NOT emmissions or CAFE exempt) as the primary competition for the 2500 Silverado/Sierra. And by marketing that truck as direct competition for the 5.4 powered F250 (and even the 5.9 powered 2500 Ram), GM can illustrate clear superiority of the Vortec 6000 over its "competition". Also, with the one-ton single-rear-wheel being such a small part of the market, GM can now market its 2500HD as both a heavy 3/4 AND a single-rear-wheel one-ton.

Just a theory.[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]</font color=purple>

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