Re: LUBA, do you have Bushwacker cut outs?
AJM- I live in Bay City (north base of the thumb) just north of saginaw.
Swamper- I like the thornbirds, everybody said they suck but I don't think they are that bad. I don't have anything to compare them to except the stock tires though. I have about 6000 miles on them. Sand, mud, and snow, and these are on my daily driver. I was actually suprised they do really well off-road. I will be getting boggers or SSR's when I switch to 1 ton axles, so I will have another set to compare them to. I had to have them shaved though. I went to the dunes and got some big air and they got out of round. After shaving they are awesome on the road, just a little bit quieter now. I liked them when they were louder.
All in all a good tire, but I only have limited time on them. I will let you know more after some more time.