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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-06-2001, 04:34 PM
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I have auto hubs on my 93 and I was wondering if i could put an aftermarket set of Warns or Superwinch locking hubs to get rid of the auto hubs, also it is push-button, but I will probably replace it with an earlier model with shifters.

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There is a kit for this. Both companies you mention have them, as does the dealer since the autos really suck. One of the first things I did. My autos constantly had problems (they broke-that's what plastic internals do). I would not mess with the Borg-Warner 1356 magnesium case. In my opinon it is a good piece. I know some may have had problems with the relay to the pushbutton (which is attached to the back of the case), but I so far have had no problems. It is a strong enough case for Broncos.

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Re: auto hubs

thanks for the help. How much do these kits cost? also how have you liked the quality of the product, and are they easy to install? sorry for all the questions.

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Sorry for long post, but I think this will help in your decision.
Warn Premiums are really easy to install. This subject has been covered extensively in the past, but I will point out a few thing. Since your truck is a 93, just like mine, you will need to purchase the conversion kit. You will need two special sockets and some type of pick, (which you can purchase at any auto parts store.) The two sockets are to remove the original wheel bearing retainer and replace the new one. While you are in there, you should check and repack your bearings. The pick is used to remove a retainer ring that holds the hub in. It may take a little work, but use the pick to remove (this is the hardest part of the entire process). Last but not least, do not add any grease to the new hubs, they are sent pre lubed.

Manuals work great.
1.There is not worry about keeping them locked, as with Autos.
2. They are stronger.
3. You can lock the hubs and drive in 2w drive, and use your button to activate 4 wheel drive if needed. (I lock my hubs before entering the Beach, Deer Lease, Trails and drive in 2 wheel until I need the 4 wheel).

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You have to get out of your truck and lock hubs. I assume that this might not be fun where it is snowy, Icy, etc. But us in Houston don't have to worry about this.


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Re: auto hubs

You can also leave them locked at all times, don't forget about that option. Mine front end has some slop in it so I don't, but I probably would leaved them locked all the time if it didn't vibrate so much on the highway. This is how most of the newer trucks are, like the dodges... they have a vacuum operated disconnect that unlocks the axle shafts themselves, but the hubs are always locked to the half shafts. As long as your spindle bearings are in good shape this should not be a problem, plus it will keep you from wearing out that cheesy bearing in the locking hub itself. It will obviously put some miles on your front differential but that shouldn't be a problem if you keep that fluid changed like the others. Something to think about....


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Keeping the hubs locked all the time will also reduce gas mileage. Cost wise the Hubs I have seen advertised for between $65 and $100, depending on manufacturer and how good a hub you want. As mentioned a conversion kit is also necessary. I got mine from the dealer. Probably not the best or cheapest way to go. Cost was about $250 from what I recall. I'm sure you can do better with Warn.

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Thanks for the help guys, i plan to do this conversion as soon as i can come up with the money!

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I think the Warn Premium's were about $70 with the conversion kit for 4wheelpartswarehouse. You can borrow the tools from autozone, if they have them. So you are looking at under 100 bucks for the entire job.

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i've heard people say that it will reduce your gas mileage, but i don't buy that... the extra rotating mass is not significant compared to the beast you're already trying to accelerate. i wouldn't worry about the mileage aspect of it, but you could do a test with them locked in for a tankful and see if it changes, i bet it wont. good luck with the manuals


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I got the warn premiums in my 90 have had no problems I use them once a week (try to anyhow) I recommend them!

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