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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-01-2003, 03:23 AM
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Rear Window Dyin!

Well, the rear window is struglin to go up and down and isnt sounding to healthy so Im figuring its the common motor gear problem thats been mentioned. I bought the part that Steve83 mentioned ($$$) [img]images/graemlins/cussing.gif[/img] and going to tackle it this weekend I hope. I dont recall too many people on this board doing this yet?? Anyone have any unexpected surprises while digin inside the tailgate.

Im going to follow those instructions that was posted on this board in the tech column.
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Re: Rear Window Dyin!

Watch your fingers and hold the arm in place before the last motor bolt is loosened all the way. Those arms are sprung tight enough to give you a good "AW SHlT! " Owwie and scare the hell out of you at the same time. Other than remembering this small thing. It is a relatively simple job. It was one of the first things I did to my Bronco. I haven't had a problem with the window since. [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] NORM
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Ahh, aint that the truth! I helped someone fix their tailgate, and when those arms snapped back, it scared the crap outta me! Thank god i was wearing gloves, ir it mightve shaved some skin off [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Oh, and i warn you now, the wiring isnt going to make much sense at first (at least, it didnt to me). Overall, it shouldnt be that hard to do, especially since your window still rolls. That right there makes it alot easier to do
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post #4 of (permalink) Old 02-02-2003, 12:28 AM
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Finished the tailgate this evening and wasnt too bad of a job, just a little time consuming. Turned out it wasnt the motor gear/pins, they looked real good after 8 yrs of abuse. Now I have this expensive part collecting dust that I cant return [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Actually it was the sliders on the end of the arms that was causing the window to jerk and make the motor work hard. It was dry/rusty and the nylon part at the end of the arm that the slider rides on was very hard to turn. I smoothed the pin that this nylon part was attached to and seems to work a fair bit better. Still it looks like trouble a few years down the road. Wonder if you can buy this part at the end of the arms that the slider rides on [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Anyways working much better for now. Maybe have to just grease it every few yrs.
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Re: Rear Window Dyin!

Yes, you can buy the nylon blocks with the ball stud attached. You have to grind off the riveted ends of the original studs to attach the new ones.

How much did you pay for the gear kit? It should only have been ~$15. Why don't you think you can return it? As long as you didn't install it or open the package, they should take it back.
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My rear window goes up & down ok (replaced the whole motor a few years back) but it creaks while going up, would those nylon parts you all speak of be causing the creak?

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Re: Rear Window Dyin!

i've had an annoying squeak from the t/g forever, if i beat on it with my fist i can hear it squeak too, could that be those joints or will they only affect things while the window is in motion? it about drove me mad when i had the out of round tire on the highway... had to turn the stereo on, but then i missed all the funny (and sometimes useful) trucker comments on the CB [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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post #8 of (permalink) Old 02-03-2003, 12:11 PM
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The part wasnt cheap, after taxes and in CDN $ it was $130. It includes the main nylon gear with those cams inside, the steel gear that turns the arms, the motor cover plate and some gear lube. The instr. from this site seems to agree about the cost of the part as well as it mentions the cost of about $70 US which seems about right. Its a special order and cant return those items, were only about 4 in all of Canada.

Steve, I assume you can only buy those nylon sliders and the metal pins it attaches too from the dealer? Might be something I should get before it gets discontinued. Most of the rust seemed only in that one area so its a good place to check if your window isnt operating very smoothly.
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