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post #1 of (permalink) Old 01-29-2003, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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Paxton Supercharger

First off I've been a member for a while here but spend most of my time lurking, mostly cause you guys know a whole lot more then I do and I'm just learning. But I've learned quite a bit and appreciate all the knowledge you guys share. Alright let me clean my nose off and get to my question.
I've just started doing stuff to my bronco. 96 XLT sport 351. Put a flowmaster 40 delta flow and k&n in so far. By the way put the delta flow in from reading suggestions on this board and can't complain. Definately give me the sound I was looking for and I've noticed more throtle response.
Now I'm thinking about the next mod. Was thinking about putting a 4' lift on. Found a rancho stage 2 kit with rs5000 shocks for $1k. The other option I was thinking about was a skyjacker stage 1 for $550. But not too sure I want to do that anymore, she's going to spend most of her time on the street and after reading posts this might just give me problems.
So now I'm thinking about putting a supercharger in her. I've seen acouple paxtons go on ebay lately. They come with the pullies, fuel sensor?, and the belts and other little things. I was wondering what else I would have to change around to get this to work in my truck. New injectors? A chip? I know I probably should open up the exaust system more but I'm in CA and smog laws are pretty strict here.
Should I just stick with the lift idea? And how much better off would I be with that rancho kit? $400 more? I just put 32's on last winter and there is plenty of life left so I don't want to change them out yet. Also I was thinking about going with the skyjacker stage one for now because I'll probably want to get a stage 2 kit when I get a 6' kit in the future when I don't have to rely on her as my daily driver.
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I say lift to your future needs. I went from 2 to 4 to 6 inches of lift, (springs). Along the way I certainley spent more money than going for the 6 inch lift right away. You could probably trade-in or sell your 32's. I drive mine daily, short trips around town. I consistently jump in my Bronc versus my new Oldsmobile Aurora. I'm saying I have a choice of a nice luxery daily driver, and prefer the bronc. With six inches of lift, 35's, and my attachment to it, it drives fine, daily.

I have supercharged my 1990 302 with a Powerdyne kit ($2100). I believe it's the best because it produces more at lower RPM for wheeling and was less expensive.. Took more than the kit. To get it to run correctly I had to go from speed density to mas ($650). You already have mas, but you would need to change injectors to 36lb injectors to get proper performance ($260), this also means replacing the mass airflow meter so it is calibrated to the bigger injectors ($200) and bigger diameter to flow (If it's not already 70mm). (It came with a fuel managment system, Just another regulator that increases fuel pressure so you get more flow out of the stock injectors, not the ticket in my opinion). I also rebuilt the motor to take the extra stress. Blowing effectively takes you to 12.5:1 to 13.5:1 compression. I had forged pistons and special rings installed in the short block I had done (more$). You may shorten the life of your stock motor or blow it if it's not strong. If you have an automatic, I believe you would also require a chip too take advantage of the power and shift points. It's pricey, I love it and have enjoyed doing the work on it. I now have the power of a stock 460 with better mileage. Hey why did'nt I just swap in a 460? Anywho don't think you can slap on a blower and it will be right, takes more. I am still having problems getting it to idle just right. I think I will have to replace the throttle body and the idle sensor there. Another round and perhaps it will be just right. Like I said I work on it and enjoy it. OK what's that about $3500? Prices above are from memory but close. [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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Re: Paxton Supercharger

$2100? their website says $3300! Kenne Bell claims to have the best low-rpm boost, so they're worth checking out too.
<img src=http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/lighting58-f150-50/performance-chart.gif>

from 310 ft lbs at 2800 to 500 ft lbs at 2500, not bad! a 7 second 0-60 for a 4x4 aint bad either [img]images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Since it doesnt sound like you're going offroad much, I'd make it faster instead of higher. Riding high is nice but it has side effects, and definitely dont settle for the Skyjacker kit. If you're going to do it right, get the Cepek or Rancho kit and do the longer arms and dont get blocks for the rear. Another reason to avoid lifting is that it will look ghey with 32" tires, but if you go with 35's you really ought to swap gear ratios, which is another $1200. After it's all added up it'd be about the same cost as the blower, which would be a lot more fun IMO. Even with 32's, 500 ft lbs at 2500 will make for a nice mud machine, should you decide to go play in the gooey [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Look at Summit Racing, Powerdyne not Paxton is $2,199.00 I said I went to 36lb injectors when in fact they are 30lb.
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Re: Paxton Supercharger

cool! That's pretty cheap for a blower, I'd definitely go that route then. Since they only offer a 1-year warranty anyway, you might look around for a used one on eBay... getting blown for under a grand would be sweet [img]images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Re: Paxton Supercharger

just did a quick search... not much in the way of Powerdynes for your truck but here's a Paxton for the 5.8L for $1150 "buy it now", or maybe cheaper if you bid on it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33741
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Ya I saw another paxton like that one go on ebay last month for a bit over $800. A lot more complete then that one though, had all the belts and it seemed like the air induction hoses were more complete. I probably won't be getting that one but will keep my eye out for one in the future. I'm wondering acouple things here. You guys have mentioned acouple other supechargers but no one said get a paxton. How come? Is paxton not as good as those other companies? Or do those other ones just have kits for the bronco so its easier to use them. Another thing. Since I have a 96 already with MAS and it seems like in general its easier just to bolt a blower on then earlier models, all I really need to get are bigger injectors right? Can I get away with the ones I already have for a while? And where should I look for new injectors? Company? I'm going to make a bronco lightning and will get pics once I do. Actually what inspired all this was seeing one on ebay. It was bad ass. I think the guy wanted $17k for it, not sure he ever got it either so watch out for it. Thanks again for the info. I've pretty much scrapped the lift idea for now. I'm going to wait until I get offroad more and get a 6' series 2 with 35's.
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Re: Paxton Supercharger

i dont know that much about different brands to tell you much, but for $800 you would be getting some nice power increases no matter who you go with, for the money. since you have MAF, you might need a higher-flow air flow meter and you definitely need the injectors and fuel pump. injectors arent all that expensive, and i think you can pretty much get them from any Mustang performance catalog, probably even Summit or JEGS. just like the lift, you want to do it right the first time, or dont do it at all. good luck, have fun [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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I found injectors through Jegs to be the best price [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]. Your mass airflow meter needs to be calibrated to go with the new injectors. I noticed a huge performance increase when I went from stock 19 lb. injectors to 30lb and stock 50mm mass airflow meter/housing to a 70mm meter/housing.
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