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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-30-2002, 02:46 PM
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My name says it all ...I\'m starting from ground -0

I finally wore my wife down enough to purchase a 4X4...with a few stipulations. It has to be a 4 door so the whole family can get in and I can't put a 10" lift on it ...with that said:

Main use: Daily driver
2ndary use: Towing quads/boat and kicking up dirt.

After reading the Desert Bulls column ..I'd love to get a 2500 w/ a Cummins, but I'd probably have to live in the truck if I spent 40K on it!

1) Any recommendations for a first truck?

2) Since I've always driven my friends trucks, or been a passenger ...I don't know what I'm really getting into. How is maintenance? What are common mistakes ...blah blah blah.

Any help would be appreciated.
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 05-30-2002, 05:34 PM
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Re: My name says it all ...I\'m starting from ground -0

A lot of this depends on the kind of wheeling you're going to do. Rock crawling is very different from muddin' or doing trails. Here in the mid west I mostly do light trails, some mud and "shelf" climbing. In general I would say four to six inches of lift, 33 or 35 inch tires, and a locker in the back will make you pretty capable. I had a similar situation years ago when my kids were younger, and went with a suburban. a little big in some situations, but the guys i wheeled with... well it was no big deal. How many kids do you have?? if it's three or less you have many more possabilities. One thing I have learned over the years is that if yu can get away with having a second vehicle for "daily driver" like a used escort or something, you can buy a beater truck and spend your money on important mechanicals instead of shiney paint that you're going to scratch. Then when you have the diff's apart for the locker upgrade you don't have to get all excited about having to get it back together by monday morning. make life easier if your toy is just that. Another good truck is the big jeeps Grand wags, big Chero's)from 1974 to about 1991 (I know Iknow it's the mopar forum) Check out
post #3 of (permalink) Old 05-30-2002, 05:59 PM
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Re: My name says it all ...I\'m starting from ground -0

Thanks for the reply.

I have 2 kids now, my oldest is 5 and my youngest is 1.

I live out in California about 1/2 hour from Hollister where there is quite a bit of off road action. From the sites that I have read, they rate it a 4 ...whatever that means. I won't be any crawling, mainly hills and dirt. I assume I will also be hitting the beaches from time to time as well.

Question: What do you mean by "locker"?

I was looking at the Suburban as well, but the thought of driving a shoovie gives me hives. [img]images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]
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post #4 of (permalink) Old 05-30-2002, 08:48 PM
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Re: My name says it all ...I\'m starting from ground -0

You differentials on each axle are either open, limited slip, or locking. Open is most common stock, it means that the pair of wheels on one axle are connected together at the differential by another set of gears, "spider gears", that allow one wheel to travel faster than the other on turns. This set up also allows one wheel to spin, and the other to just sit there, hence you are stuck. A limited slip has either clutches or cones in the dif that are pre set to allow some variance between the two wheel speeds, but when one is spinning the other will get some traction, maybe keep you moving. Limited Slip are also known as "posi" this from positraction, a particular brand name. A locker in your diff will lock both wheels together, both will turn even if one is in the air, but will "dissengage" when going around corners to allow for different wheel travel in a turn. The most common locker is a Detroit. Lockers are known for their bad manners on the road, like noise when disengaging, and jerking when engaging. There is a big difference of opinion over which is best, rock crawlers like lockers, mud guys tend to like LS's or lockers, and some old purists say open differentials plus driving skill is the way to go. I tend to prefer LS because I would rather get stuck than break an axle. The best of all worlds is avsilable in an ARB air locking diff, or an Ox locker, which is a cable operated locking mech. You drive on the street with it "open", and when you need the traction you lock it. But you pay a price, about 800 bucks or more for the locker. I have a suburban, a ford f100, and a Grand Wagoneer. But...I am planning a mopar 413 install in the jeep. I like the size and sturdiness of the full size Jeeps, but the amc 360 sucks, I hate everything about it. Dodge has some good choices, older ramcharger, or what about the newer jeep stuff, it's chrysler after all.
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