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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-18-2004, 10:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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The myth\'s of long travel arms...

Don't say it's so...that long travel arms are really just +2 longer and you bolt on longer shocks..... I was told that by someone today.....tell me the real story before I make a mistake....preping my trx450r to go beat...I mean battle with you folks....input will be greatly appreciated... [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

In a nutshell, thats all they are. You run a bunch more sag in the long travel setups which enables the suspension to "drop into" the bumps. You do have to be more precise on your shock setups to make the shocks do that. So having somebody that is knowledgable setting your suspension up is a must. We use Allen White at Precision Concepts and he is great. He knows the Elka shocks very well and thats what we use. Eric can tell you how the bike rode this weekend but I think he was pretty happy with it.
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

Th reason I ask is I found some arms for a very nice price that are +2 and up 1 ..I have no idea what that means at least the up part....was going to buy them but wasn't sure they would do the trick... so if I get he arms +2 to get the long travel I need , I still need the shocks correct? whcih from what I read, should be close to 19" long?
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

length of the shock will depends on the a-arm manufacturer, who is the a-arm manufacturer?

also +2 +1 means +2 wider and + 1 forward....
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

foound some on ebay ASR's are these any good? say will give me 12" with stock shocks...
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

I'm not bashing on any one's product, but the fact is: if you are getting a true 12" of travel out of the stock shocks, the leverage ratios are off and you are going to overheat your shocks and they will fade fast.

If you are going to play ride, you might be OK. If you are going to race, you will end up paying double because you will be wanting to change very shortly. You may not agree, but my thinking is to save up and by good stuff the 1st time.
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

makes sense I don't believe much because I do have some knowledge of mechanical stuff...my stock bike has about 8" travel....I know I need shocks adn arms, just trying to get a decent deal on some stuff.... and unfortuanetly no places near me sell this stuff....I like to see before I buy...where is golden west adn do you think they would have the stuff?
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

Ed is right on that. If your going to be putting the suspension through abuse, like in a race environment, the stock shocks will not do with that kind of setup. You will see.Thats why we spend the extra money for suspension, even though its expensive. Thats my recommenation for the 1st upgrade on a bike is the suspension.
racinteach, I think I remeber you said you ride in the D37 area? Hook up with Eric or Shaun, they will show you what we are talking about. Not only that, they are great people....
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

I know....just trying to find the right one...on another note... holeshoots, mxr4, or xcr or H-D tire....and wheel sizes buying spares for henderson..I hope to be ready by then....
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Re: The myth\'s of long travel arms...

I use 23 and 22 Holeshot XCT's

although for district racing i might go to same size Razr2's for their better puncture resistance then Holeshots...

but the Holeshots work good out at BITD no flats for 200 miles, and erics team went 500 miles with no flats....


Also look at Kenda Klaws, i hear they worka lright, i'm sure justin or dean can tell you more then i can...

and as for a-arms its better to(in my opinion) buy them from an established company,lonestar,Laeger,Roll,etc.....

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