hakefisherman: well said , i am not a church going man myself but i believe in god . i also believe in your right not to believe in god , i feel that if you are a good person good things will be in store for you when you die. i dont need some fire and brimstone preacherman telling me what a heathen i am every sunday to be a good person . i am a big boy and i know that there will eventually be consequences for bad stuff and rewards for good stuff , i just try to do more good stuff than bad .... just my opinion ..... Von Warner