pv, don't feel so bad, at least it's 4x4. Those are hubs I see up front, right? A Ram 50 is just a rebadged Mitsubishi pickup if I remember correctly. Doesn't have the image of a big truck or anything, but it isn't a bad design or anything. The Japanese built/build some good 4x4's. My personal feelings are their trucks have a higher "strength per size ratio" than most US trucks do until you get up to the US 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. Not to mention people don't associate your truck with teenage girls and yuppies like my Tracker.[img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]