[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] None of the little moonguys around here are actually mud experienced other than running army 6X6's up to the eyeballs in mud feeding cows. I think dune running and real muddin' is different than that. There are some Full-Size Jeep and some truck guys that post here that can certainly answer that question for you.[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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