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Old 01-09-2002, 09:35 AM
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Hey All,

I am mullling over my options for winter traction and have a question I am sure I can get opinions on from the lot of ya.

I have 30x9.5x15 mud tires on right now. They probably rule in deep snow, but I hear they are less than ideal on ice and packed snow. Part of my daily commute is up a pretty steep unpaved hill which is often icy. I want some kind of aggressive solution to getting up that hill.

I priced a set of 235/75-15 studded winter tires, mounted on rims I already have. It came to around 400$. Then I looked at a couple sets of chains for my 30s, and that would be around 150$ (the V kind, no tire chain experience here..). A friend of mine said I should juust get a bag of 1/4 hex head screws and stud my mud tires myself. He claims he's seen it done lots of times without any ill effects to the tires. I am dubious.

What sayeth the all-knowing multitude here on the BBS?

thanks!

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You should be able to get chains cheaper than that.
The problem with them is unless everywhere you drive requires the chains they are noisy and may come loose.
I have run hex head screws on offroad motorcycles and atv's in the winter. They do work but will wear off quickly on pavement.
(and they may affect the handling adversly)
For the hill I would make sure you are in 4wd high and
if it is really icy stick one side of the truck in the ditch/snowbank. That should get you up it. and as allways
carry a shovel and sand/salt with you. The other option is buy 2 recaps and have them studded and put them on the back of the truck.
BTW here is a link I just found for chains-
http://www.tirechain.com/30X9.50-15LT.htm
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Old 01-09-2002, 10:43 AM
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Here in Colorado, they have ice racing - they put 1/4 inch bolts through the tires! Basically, you have little 4 wheel drive monsters on glare ice at 60 mph! And it's not drag racing, it's closed course racing, maybe over a half mile course. Amazing stuff. However, I have to go with getting two recaps, and studding them for the back tires. Heck, even the cheap "cable" chains will do, in most cases, but if you go with chains, be sure to get chain tighteners too - basically a bunch of "s" hooks on a big rubber band, that keeps the chains tight. Personally, I'd just put in 4 Hi and go for it!

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Old 01-09-2002, 04:10 PM
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They have ice racing in Maine too. We do it on an oval track on ponds & lakes. Although this has been a bad year for it. I doubt that Daxe is going to want to jump out & spend 20min. putting on tire chains just to take them right back off again. I know what he's saying, my driveway is VERY steep & tarred (sp?). All day on the roads I have no problem. It's when I try to go to my own house that I almost DIE. As far as putting one side of the rig on a snow bank, that isn't gonna work unless you have locks or maybe LSD. I'd try the screws. What the heck? Are they illegal though? A spare set of cheap studed tires is a good idea too.

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Most mud tarrian tires r pinned for studs ? if u have them put in and dont want to run them all summer long, just get a big pair of plyres and pull them out .
I live in Flagstaff AZ and i run studs all year long no problems >

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If you go with the screws don't let anyone you like drive behind you. They will work loose and be kicked up behind you. But if you don't care, it is cheep.

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Chains suck, but they will make you unstoppable when you have them on. The only problem is if this is your daily driver, do you want to be putting them on and taking them off all the time? You will get real good at it.

Studs are great for icy conditions but your dry pavement handling, especially high speed braking and cornering, will suffer. If you drive like your grandmother, you will have no problem with studs.

I hate to think of what screws would do for the handling. You probably have to run tubes too.

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>>You should be able to get chains cheaper than that.

I was looking at the same place you sent the link for

>The problem with them is unless everywhere you drive requires the chains they are noisy and may come loose.

I was planning on putting them on in emergency situations, like when my hill is total ice. Other than that I can probably push my way through on the mud tires.

>For the hill I would make sure you are in 4wd high and
if it is really icy stick one side of the truck in the ditch/snowbank. That should get you up it. and as allways
carry a shovel and sand/salt with you.

That sounds kinda key right there. Dont forget the old sensible ideas.

> The other option is buy 2 recaps and have them studded and put them on the back of the truck.

just the back?

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>>I doubt that Daxe is going to want to jump out & spend 20min. putting on tire chains just to take them right back off again.

It sjust to gethome..the zuk can sit in the driveway as long as it likes after that. If its bad enough to take the zuk the next day it would be bad enough to leave them on. If it wasnt bad enough, Id take the Neon with the Blizzaks.

>> I know what he's saying, my driveway is VERY steep & tarred (sp?). All day on the roads I have no problem. It's when I try to go to my own house that I almost DIE.

EXACTLY. I am an experienced winter driver. I know how not to get killed in bad conditions. My job requires me to drive the same 200 miles on the same schedule even if theres a blizzard. There's never a big problem with that (except those nasty whiteouts at night), its when I get to the last 100 feet of my trip that it all unravels. There's no place to leave the truck at the bottom of the hill, either. I'd need a backhoe to find it the next morning in some cases.

> As far as putting one side of the rig on a snow bank, that isn't gonna work unless you have locks or maybe LSD.

if it slipped more on the ice than in the gutter it would work, no?

>>I'd try the screws. What the heck? Are they illegal though? A spare set of cheap studed tires is a good idea too.

I'll look around on that one. Thanks for the input Bill

~daxe


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>>Most mud tarrian tires r pinned for studs ? if u have them put in and dont want to run them all summer long, just get a big pair of plyres and pull them out .

except ya cant get anyone to stud used tires. I thought about studding a "spare" set of 31s I have here, but nobody wants to. They dont exactly fit the truck either, maybe good enough for winter though..hmm...

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