Mud racing:

I think this is the first year for it. I would guess that they would do it in the grass. I found it on http://www.familyevents.com I think it would be [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img] to watch parts break.

RedDog

[The_Sandman_454]

Some day me and a friend of mine that has a Fo#* diesel are going to go frame to frame on a nice slick surface, and let 'em go, see whether the big block has the brute torque to pull the diesel backwards... I'd bet what ever we use to hook 'em together will snap before either of us go anywhere, that or we'll both just dig in so bad that we'll have to get a bulldozer to get us pulled out... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] I bet I could smoke that Fo#*... I just need taller tires than my 35's I have now, because my diffy's like to get hung up on the high part of the ground between the ruts on the dead end street I usually play on (that road has some very deep ruts).. That's the first and only time I've ever had that truck stuck (the Behemoth)... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Tim
"The_Sandman_454"
[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img] '79 Suburban 4x4 454, 6" lift, 35x12.5s & '85 GMC S15 4x4

Tim,

The Ford might getcha on this [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img]. The weight of the vehicle is the main thing with these. I am guessing his weighs more than yours, which already puts you at a disadvantage [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]. Lockers would help big time, otherwise you will end up with just one front and one rear tire spinning, unless you could get the high rpm possi that we like to call it.


I would use a big wide strap for the hookup.

Give me more stats on each vehicle. RedDog

<font color=purple>I don't think that diesel stands much of a chance - especially if Sandman's 'burb is as heavy as he says (7,000 ). Reddog, you've been to the pulls. The diesels get clobbered. Anyhow, if you've got a receiver hitch, get a 7" drop hitch & plug it in upside down. Between this & your lift, it'll put so much lift on the rear of that oil-squisher, you'll drag him all over the place.

Incidentally, we had some locals do a pull-off with diesels recently. A 6.5 against a 7.3 turbo. The GM was pulling the Ford & got him out onto the pavement, shifted into 2nd (A/T) & blew the transfer case apart[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img]. Then, the Ford dragged him back onto the lot. The IFS GM's really get good traction & there's a guy with a late one-ton that's dominating the "street" class in the local pulls.</font color=purple>

TEX

[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Got Mud?
G.U.M.B.O. Mud Racing

I didn't know that it weighed that much [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif[/img]. I think he would win.

Tex,
Times are changing in truck-pulling. Diesels are winning stock class most of the time and the cheater stock class that we have. One Dodge tried the Pro-Stock class once a finished 2nd,, pretty darn good. My brother was beat at our local county fair by a Dodge Cummins Diesel. He has beat my bro 2 years in a row at the fair. We think we would have beaten him this last time if we had used different tires,, instead of the Ground Hawgs.

The rules at the ones we go to favor the Diesels. It seems as if the rules for the gas powered vehicles is stuck in the 70's era while the Diesel's rules are current.

Tex, You are right about the hitch setup, but the other dude should figure that out also,,,,, well you never know he does drive a Ford [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img].


See ya, RedDog

[The_Sandman_454]

It's definitely going to be interesting to see what wins, eventually... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] I think it's going to come down to who gets on the throttle first, and who gets into the area when their engine gets into it's heavy torque area first... My 454 seems to get the most torque around 3500 or so, but the diesel is already basically making all of it's torque right off idle... Sound about right? Plus, since that big block has virtually no aluminum on it at all, it's definitely plenty of weight up front to get the tires some serious traction... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img] He had the diesel stuck in some snow because he couldn't get enough wheel speed fast enough to keep his momentum... As far as I know, it's just a naturally aspirated one, not a turbo diesel... My 203 t case will probably grenade itself during that pull.. I doubt the corp 14 bolt ff rear or (as far as I can tell) Dana 60 front will give out on that pull... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] I'm going to have to drive Behemoth up on a scale sometime so I can see exactly what it weighs... Some equipment I usually carry is a regular floor jack, a couple jack stands, a fairly large tool box, myself, and some wood scraps... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] When the body gets redone, it's probably getting on board air, and definitely some tie down points to secure all the "stuff" I keep in there... I usually just put the stuff between the front and middle seats... (No back seats, just empty back end)...

Tim
"The_Sandman_454"
[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img] '79 Suburban 4x4 454, 6" lift, 35x12.5s & '85 GMC S15 4x4

Tex, what do you mean by "vacuum rule"? I know when my timing advance line came off my distributor my truck ran like crap. But what are you checking on a 17" vacuum rule? Just a ignorant rookie looking to learn as much as possible.

[The_Sandman_454]

The bigger (more high performance oriented) camshaft you use, the less vacuum is available in the intake manifold... I believe TEX and others check the manifold vacuum to ensure that no one with too "hot" (powerful) of an engine runs in a lower class than they should... Is that right, TEX?

Tim
"The_Sandman_454"
[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img] '79 Suburban 4x4 454, 6" lift, 35x12.5s & '85 GMC S15 4x4

<font color=purple>That's correct. Certain classes with certain organizations will require that the lower classes be checked for manifold vacuum. If you cannot pull enough vacuum, you are bumped up to a higher class. It's not a perfect system, but it does bump some of the purpose-built racers out of the lower classes.</font color=purple>

TEX

[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Got Mud?
G.U.M.B.O. Mud Racing

In our Assoc. we go 18 at 1000 rpm for street stock, and 15 at 1000 for stock.
It is also at the tech guy's descretion for street stock if a guy comes in there with a clapped out old oil burner that is so worn out it can't pull vacuum.